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		<title>You Blog, We Listen</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>roblord</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Props and thanks to you, the Songbird community peeps whose feedback and participation make Songbird&#8217;s community so active, productive and vital. You have been blogging Songbird&#8217;s Beta launch, providing community feedback, often supporting each other, reporting technical issues, and twittering your Songbird critiques and delights. From the sb_core developer to the add-on hacker to the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Props and thanks to you, the Songbird community peeps whose feedback and participation make Songbird&#8217;s community so active, productive and vital.</p>
<p>You have been <a href="http://delicious.com/songbirdteam/review">blogging</a> Songbird&#8217;s Beta <a href="http://blog.songbirdnest.com/2008/08/20/songbird-beta-is-released/">launch</a>, providing <a href="http://getsatisfaction.com/songbird">community feedback</a>, often supporting each other, reporting <a href="http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/">technical issues</a>, and <a href="http://twitter.com/songbirdteam">twittering</a> your Songbird critiques and delights.</p>
<p>From the <a href="http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Developer/Articles/001_sb_core">sb_core</a> developer to the <a href="http://addons.songbirdnest.com/">add-on</a> <a href="http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/238">hacker</a> to the <a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080822-hands-on-singing-along-with-songbird-0-7.html">blog</a> <a href="http://www.webmonkey.com/blog/Songbird_Beta:_Like_iTunes__But_it_Goes_to_11">reviewer</a>, you make Songbird rock!</p>
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		<title>Return of the RIA?</title>
		<link>http://blog.songbirdnest.com/2008/05/06/return-of-the-ria/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>roblord</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mozilla’s Mark Finkle recently concluded that the term RIA, Rich Internet Application, has lost its meaning. RIA (the acronym) has jumped the shark. I find that I can no longer use RIA to describe anything anymore. The definition has been watered down and twisted to the point that nearly any application can be called RIA. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://mozilla.com/">Mozilla</a>’s <a href="http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/">Mark Finkle</a><a href="http://starkravingfinkle.org/blog/2008/04/ria-is-dead-long-live-web-applications/"> recently concluded</a> that the term RIA, Rich Internet Application, has lost its meaning.</p>
<blockquote><p>RIA (the acronym) has jumped the shark. I find that I can no longer use RIA to describe anything anymore. The definition has been watered down and twisted to the point that nearly any application can be called RIA.
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<p>I agree. Finkle names names of Adobe and Microsoft software evangelists pushing proprietary app frameworks that have obfuscated the meaning of RIA and, in their wake, the user-centric, community-directed utility promise of the RIA class.</p>
<p>However, I don’t follow Mark’s conclusion to retire the term RIA. The term has currency and fluency; Let’s re-appropriate, replenish and sharpen it. With a new definition, <a href="http://mozilla.com/firefox">Firefox</a>, <a href="http://mozilla.com/thunderbird">Thunderbird</a> and <a href="http://songbirdnest.com/">Songbird</a> are practical and aspirational leaders of the RIA class. </p>
<p>The key is to emphasize the I in RIA. The Internet is global network of community-centric client-server systems including the Web, email, DNS, etc.  An RIA implements the client-side of at least one of these Internet systems.</p>
<p>Also, the R in RIA should be measured by &#8220;richness&#8221; found in exemplary IAs, Firefox first among them. The metric is user utility and community adoption of the client. Firefox&#8217;s open source, vibrant community, Open Web manifesto, widespread adoption and 5,000+ <a href="http://addons.mozilla.org/firefox">community-contributed add-ons</a> establish a very high &#8220;richness&#8221; bar. </p>
<p>With this definition it&#8217;s easy to discern the real RIAs from the wishful: RIAs implement the client-side of Internet methods, formats and protocols. In the Web client-server system, RIAs are better known as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_agent">user-agents</a> or Web browsers. In the email client-server sytem, RIAs are better known as email clients. </p>
<p>By this definition, is <a href="http://www.twhirl.org/">Twirl</a>, a useful desktop app for <a href="http://twitter.com/">Twitter</a> built from Adobe <a href="http://abobe.com/air">AIR</a>, a RIA? No, it&#8217;s a proprietary app, platform and service integration. However, if someone built an desktop IM-like client from the open source Mozilla stack that posted your Twitter-like status to your <a href="http://openid.net/">OpenID</a> via <a href="http://blogs.gnome.org/jamesh/2007/11/26/openid-ax/">Attribute Exchange</a> and thus accessible to all Twitter-like status tracking services like Twitter &#8212; <strong>that</strong> would be a really cool RIA.</p>
<p>Your comments are welcomed!</p>
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