Here’s quick update before the weekend for the folks interested in performance improvements that are going into our next release.
Significant progress has been made for browsing large libraries as well as searching. We’re hoping that most of you will have a much better experience if you have a library that’s 25,000 tracks and larger. For the curious, I usually do performance work and testing using a 65,000 track library with 8 genres, 1074 artists and 3170 albums.
Most of the work this week was focused on search performance. The last round of fixes will be in the nightly build that will be up tomorrow. The build number should be 1824 or greater. If you are testing using the nightly build, creating a new profile is recommended. You can do so by using the Songbird (Profile Manager) link in the Start Menu or by starting the application with the -ProfileManager command line argument.
Feedback is always appreciated. If you run into problems and post a comment, some quick stats about your library size, total number of genres, artists and albums as well as your operating system is very helpful. 
Thanks everyone, and have a great weekend!
EDIT:
LiveSearch has been fixed. The next nightly build will have all the necessary fixes (Build #1827).
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SubscribeLive search isn’t working for me though the pref is set to true
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Wonderful. The only concern I have for your test library is that I reckon most libraries of that size will contain a lot more than 8 genres.
@Evan
That’s true, that’s why I also have a smaller secondary library with 13,280 tracks that has 138 genres, 1357 artists and 1224 albums to represent collections that have more compilations and singles.
@Michael Purses
Ugh. That’s weird. That change just came in as well. I’ll talk with jhawk to see if he’s aware this may have broken live search in the Library.
EDIT: And yes, it looks like Live Search was broken by that change. Apologies
We’ll get that fixed on Monday.
Happy to see you’re finally listening + responding to your users. That is, imo, a very good transition. Please go on in that direction.
I just installed the 1.9.0.a nightlybuild_1825 and my library with its ~960 albums and ~16k tracks was unusable so far with any former version, except using a very old songbird around 0.6.
Let’s sum up the differences:
- I am now able to scroll my library list fluidly
- I can click on a genre and directly see its elements with happy songbird fan is happy again
This release is going to be an important one I value much much more than any of the former ones. Please always keep in mind: If software is not fun to use, it is unimportand how many features it has.
Using “less than” and “greater than” symbols partially killed my last post
- I can click on a genre and directly see its elements with less than 0.5sec delay
- albums art shows up more or less immediately
- Songbird as a music player is usable again!!!
this means: happy songbird fan is happy again
Hi,
Just installed 1.9.0a 1825, (Mac)the search is faster because the predictive search has been removed!!! I have tried toggling this in preferences but it still fails to predict as you type and only searches after you have pressed enter.
This seems to be a work-around not a bug fix!
However the general flow does seems a little speedier making Songbird more user-friendly.
Just need to incl:-
CD Import/Rip for Mac (working and stable)
CD Burn for Mac
Cue list
Way way faster startup required
A stable Shoutcast
Get rid of the browser (never understood this)
Songbird will getting there then.
Good to see things are improving.
Cheers
@Darren
Predictive search is known as LiveSearch in Mozilla land. LiveSearch is broken in that build. It’s not a work-around
Build 1827 will have all fixes necessary for LiveSearch to work as expected.
At it’s core, Mozilla is built to display XUL and HTML. Removing the browser wouldn’t help performance.
Play Queue support will be included in 1.9. CD Ripping should also be working on the Mac in 1.9 as long as you have the CD Rip add-on installed. Burning CDs is not planned for 1.9.
Aus,
Cheers for the replay, good to see things are being ironed out.
Ref, browser, realised mistake I’d made after I’d posted that and realised that Sondbird’s core is built around XUL and HTML.
Cheers
btw,
I take it the current cd-rip add-on located in the add-ons folder within nightly builds doesn’t work as it crashes songbird everytime I try to use this.
Cheers
@Darren
Hmm, sounds like that add-on needs a little more QA. Not to worry though, we haven’t yet reached the QA phase of this release so it will get plenty of attention
Great post. But I prefer to have some website review first for assurance.
Really excited about the performance improvements planned! I’m using 1.8 on ubuntu at the moment (about 16,000 tracks, 40 odd genres) and find that right clicking a song and clicking add to playlist works fine and is speedy, dragging and dropping into a playlist causes songbird to hang for several seconds each time. Any chance that’ll be fixed in 1.9?
VERY eager to see the final version of this round get to PortableApps, which is about the only way I use Songbird these days.
Just FYI, my library stats:
273 genres (Acapella to Zydeco)
2,,722 artists (2 Bad Mice to ZZ Top)
2,132 albums (2NU2 to Zooropa)
19,900 items.
@gryphon: what is the particular reason that makes you use Songbird in its portable version only? I’m curious
Thanks
@db
I think the playlist issue is indeed resolved. Do you happen to have any add-ons installed which may be contributing to the problem though? I’d like to test under the same conditions to make sure it’s really fixed.
@klint: Because it’s the only way to use the same database in multiple locations. I carry my entire collection around on a portable drive, and while at work (and home, and wherever) I tend to listen to music I have NOT rated yet… and then rate it, and add it to whatever playlist seems appropriate.
This helps keep a steady flow of ‘new’ music through my ears, helps build the usefulness of my ratings, and cleans up the library (I fix any obvious errors, when I happen to catch one).
And sadly… and I harp on this a lot… there is no way to save, move, or redirect your music database.
@Aus – sounds good! The add-ons I currently have installed are: 7digital, foxytunes, gracenote, lastfm, librarystatistics, lyricmaster, ratingfile and total time and size status bar.
@gryphon Thanks for this explanation, it makes sense perfectly. Will probably move to portable version at some point in time
This is great, A little slow but all in all good.
But…. It requires support for .m4a and .m4p and all iTunes files that aren’t supported. This is very important and frustrates me alot for i have to convert all these files and often loose file information e.g. Album name, Artist name.
Please, Please consider this.
Thanks
If you have QuickTime installed on your system Songbird will play m4a files. If you installed the QuickTime Add-On for Songbird we can also play m4p iTunes Store files.
GREAT! downloading as I type, hopefully this will fix the terrible search performance I’ve been experiencing with Songbird.
I would like to use Songbird as the options on osx is almost nonexistent.
But so far my library with ~7500 songs is *painful* to use on 1.80.
This is the most needed fix ever for songbird IMO.
It worked PERFECT!
Just a quick shout-out to @Aus – THANK YOU for keeping us so up to date, and being so responsive about problems. You’ve really helped turn things around from a public perception point of view, and given me a whole new hope for Songbird.
I’m still bummed about the loss of -official- support of Linux, but I really appreciate that you still make the linux builds available. It gives me hope that you’ll stay in synch with the guys at getnightingale.org, and either resume full support for Linux yourselves with their help, or help them take over as the *nix flavored variation.
Either way, my Ubuntu-powered netbook and I will thank you.
@gryphon, totally +1!!
Thanks Aus for bringing so much light in the darkness
@mats
Yay! Glad to hear it’s working great for you
@gryphon, klint
Thanks guys
I am going to have to echo Gryphon on this one; Aus you deserve a medal or a ceremony or some sort of recognition. Your recent blog posts, as well as the continued support you provide through the comments, has been greatly appreciated.
On a side note, what ever happened to the Songbird Mixtapes? I was going through my library today and came across the “Songbird Mixtape Volume 1″ album, which of course bothered me because there was no “Songbird Mixtape Volume 2″. It just got me thinking…
In all honestly, the mixtapes weren’t a bad idea. I’m not sure about most players, but I know WMP used to come with a few sample songs (this probably wasn’t the best approach, since the majority of people just deleted the single Beethoven/David Byrne songs and moved on). To me, it seems like such a practice has the potential to add to the user experience if it is done right. It can be interesting for a user to see some of the inspiration behind the release.
Any chance the mixtapes will ever return?
I’m still getting serious lag when dragging songs to a playlist in 1.9, build 1828 (although not as bad as it was in 1.8). No lag at all when I right click>add to playlist, which I find odd but interesting.
I know this isn’t the place to report bugs, but there’s also a thin purple stripe at the bottom that I assume is just a mistake with the feather.
Other than that, best nightly ever, seriously: filter pane searching and switching and searching particularly are very speedy whereas in 1.8 they were brutally slow by comparison.
Great job!
Yes yes, Aus you have been so awesome! Thanks for all the communication!
@Evan, Bug 22349 and Bug 21729 sound like yours? same for me too on both..
One more vote for a bit thankyou to Aus. It had become quite depressing reading the blog as it had become a long list of moans without hardly any response from the Songbird team
@Michael Purses, those are indeed the ones
One final thing is that searching from the search box in a big library is still ridiculously slow. I’m not complaining too much though as I typically just use the filter panes.
@Evan
Part of the reason why it’s still slow is that we aren’t running an analyze query on the database to keep it speedy. So right after a large import (50,000+) search will be significantly slower than it should be. I’m trying to figure out a good time to run this query to keep the DB nice and speedy. However, I don’t expect 100k+ libraries to have instant search results for one or two characters for 1.9. It’ll take a lot more work to get that to happen.
Could you also give me more details about the slow drag and drop of tracks into playlists? Are you dragging and dropping from your main library to a playlist? From a device to a playlist? How many tracks are you dropping onto the playlist? 10,000?
Thanks guys, amazing performance increase on my OSX compared to 1.8! Looking forward to the next official build…
@Aus
Understandable, although my library is only 11,000 songs I’ll await judgement until the final release. If you’re worried about when to rerun the query you could do it after import and then have a menu item under file to rescan it called “Rerun Search Query”.
I think Bug 22349 is the same as mine. It happens when you drag and drop from your main library to a playlist, yes. Have not tried with a device but I would guess that it’s the same. Songbird basically just locks up for 10-20 seconds. Dragging one song will do it.
I guess I don’t know how to link to bugs on here… Can someone fix that and delete this comment?
@Evan
No worries, I fixed up the link.
I think we’ll be attempting to run this analyze query when Songbird is running and the machine is considered idle (eg. The user is away from their machine so the keyboard and mouse are not used). The query itself runs pretty fast, typically under 2 seconds.
I am surprised that search is running that slowly for you with that size library
If you switch to the non-filter pane view and use search, does it make feel super fast?
Quick status update:
I’ve been able to reproduce the dragging and dropping tracks onto playlist being super slow and hanging the app for several seconds. A patch is now up on bug 22349 and I’m hoping we’ll be able to include in the 1.9 release.
@Aus
I thought so at first but no. Searching “Arkells” is quite fast in both filtered and list view but searching pretty much anything else is much slower, in some cases causing Songbird to hang. It is again faster in safe mode with addons disabled but still quite iffy really.
T’is odd that “Arkells” search instantly in seemingly all cases, yes?. I thought it might be because they only have one album but other artists of one album seem to search just as awfully as the rest.
Very good work guys, works great for me in osx with flac library.
I think that the video support can be dropped at all, songbird it’s a music player, let’s focus for being the BEST music player.
Wonderful ! that’s a great job (Y)
Why the hell did you people block LyricsMaster, when its community modified version was working perfectly fine? Did you even bother to read the comments on its page? You are unable or not willing to properly fix Shoutcast, now you’re blocking LyricsMaster – did you people learn customer service in Soviet Russia?
One more “Yeah!”.
With my 17k library on build 1831, it’s already more than usable.
I think I’m back on songbird.
I just miss the embedded artwork support for FLAC to be fully happy now.
Well played guys, thx.
I’m running Songbird 1.9.0a, Build 182 on Win7, 64 and it’s really fun again to work with this great music player & organizer! I’ve got ~12,000 songs (70 genres,1900 artists, 800 albums) in my library and search speed now is always below 1 sec. Great!
What still seems to be a little problem is a lock-up for ~10 sec after re-naming even just single files, re-naming more files creates longer lock-ups.
I’ve also got small stupid question: How can I permanently remove songs from the library+disk drive (when I delete a file in SB, it remains on the drive, there’s no window asking me if I also want to remove it from the disk, as I remember from older SB versions)?
What I also noticed on my 1.9 version: The playlist on the right side is gone, and I can’t get it back, plus album cover pane down on the left corner is not displaying covers any more.
Big thanks to Aus and the SB team for re-connecting with the users, together with the significant improvements, this will greatly help SB to get tons of new users once the 1.9 or 2.0 are released. Looking forward to that!
Frustrated by songbirds attitude to all the hard work people did with add-ons…the reason most people started using songbird was the hope that this would become the most flexible player on the planet, with amazing easy to install add-on, but the more updates they do the further they get away from this feature less and less add-ons working and the developers frustrated that their hard work is wasted
@kyods
In Soviet Russia Customer Services You! In all seriousness though, SHOUTcast works great in 1.8. I’m not aware of what problems there are with LyricsMaster that would have made us block it, I’ll ask and get back to you on that one.
@Sandworm8
First, I’m happy you like the extra speed of the searches
Ok, now onto some of the issues you’re running into.
Yes! Editing Metadata can cause some hangs in the application. I’m trying to resolve this for 1.9. See bug 21605.
The only time we offer to delete files from disk is if you have Manage Files turned on. We do have an enhancement request already though to provide this functionality always. See bug 19268.
Some of the other bugs you are reporting are probably just transient as 1.9 is still in Alpha stages right now.
@Mass
I’m not sure what attitude you are referring to honestly. Songbird still has many awesome add-ons available! New releases of Songbird do sometimes have changes to some of the APIs add-on developers use but those are usually easy to track and update.
@Evan
Hmmm, there are definitely some search terms that can be slower than others. Automatic analysis of database usage data may help with speed. This should be completed next week.
Performance is *finally* massively improved…albeit now it simply becomes usable again. Regardless…thank you to those responsible for focusing on the important stuff. I’m with the majority when I say that gladly the future is looking bright again…life without iTunes!
yo, just saying this is an awesome program. I use it as my main browser as well, though I wish there was an option to make it your default browser. I’m loving the design and its better than itunes or WMP imho so you guys did a really good job. just waiting on version 1.9
@Mass
It’s quite easy to bump the version manually.. the add-on makers could do this as well.
Hi,
Just installed the 1831 build, the live search is bonzaly slow again, this is on a mere 3892 collection of mp3 and m4a. This, on virtually all occasions brings up the mac spinning wheel.
The cd rip addon also hangs songbird as soon as it has finished counting down from 3.
I also have tons of Artwork missing
I’m hanging on
Cheers
@Darren
I can’t reproduce the live search slowness you are referring to unfortunately. I have 10k tracks and it never brings up the spinning wheel. Could you give me some more details please?
Number of genres, artists and albums?
Do you have the filter panes showing when you are searching?
Are you doing multi-word searches?
Do you have any add-ons installed?
Any and all details will help me out a lot. Thanks
Aus,
No. of Genres = 68
Artists = 522
Albums = 422
Filter Panes showing = yes
Some are single word, such as “lissie” which hanged on the first “s” and completed the word approx 6 secs after typing. “Red Hot Chilli Peppers” hanged after the word “red” then completed hot” approx 4 secs after typing and so forth for the rest of Chilli and Peppers
In fact Songbird has just crash doing that last search. (frozen with the mac spinning wheel) – had to Force quit – bug report submitted
Add-ons
DetailsPane
Birdtune
Foldersync
Glossycoat
Icecast
LastFm
Machtape
Mediaflow
Shoutcast
Hope the above helps
Cheers
Darren
Aus,
Also hangs with filter pane off, i.e just in list view
Cheers
Aus,
Thanks for the reply. In fact, Shoutcast hardly works in 1.8. First of all, you need to switch your Songbird to the En-US locale if you want it to work at all, and even then the Favourite Stations node doesn’t work.
As for the LyricsMaster, you guys performed a classic shot in your own foot, see the GetSatisfaction page – it’s in uproar. http://getsatisfaction.com/songbird/topics/re_authorise_lyricsmaster_extension?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_songbird
@Darren: I had some performance issues after migrating my old 1.8 profile to 1.9. Not sure it is related to 1.9 though, but maybe because I interrupted some process
Anyway, in order not to loose the dozens of addons I had installed, I just removed all .db files from my profiles, and rerun 1.9. All .db were reconstructed and now it is swift as expected.
Hope this helps
@Darren
Thanks for the info. We’ll try and reproduce the problem.
@kyods
The LyricsMaster issues are not our fault honestly. I’ve posted to the GetSatisfaction thread itself with an explanation.
The favorite stations node works great for me. I’m not sure what problem you’re running into. If you could give us more details we may be able to help. It’s also possible that something in your Songbird profile wasn’t migrated properly and is causing the issue. You can always try and create a new profile (Start Menu => Songbird => Songbird Profile Manager). This will retain your old profile so you can always go back to it.
…Of course I had to reimport all my songs
Aus,
It is a shiny brand new profile. I’m not sure what else you would like me to try, but I’d be more than happy to help. Also, I’m not the only person experiencing this – see the comments here: http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/1205 , there’s at least one other user who can’t get the Favourite Stations node to work, among all these who are completely out of luck. Also you can find a community-made fix for the locale issue in there.
Aus / Klint
Just to advise
Doing as Klint has done, this has now made the live search lightening fast. My artwork seems to have reappeared too.
Cheers
I used to be able to drag the artwork displayed by Last fm onto the desktop, change songbird to switch to local artwork and then drag the artwork back across.
Has this been disabled/removed
Cheers
plz work on important addons like lastfm and lyricmaster.
This is the only way that I can find to communicate with you!!
I have had music players of all sorts on my pc for the last nine years, and have never found anything that comes close to songbird.
It is something to be so proud of, and to share it with the world for free goes to show what sort of people are involved with this. I keep finding more apps etc that just make it even better..
Thank you xxxx
@Darren, @Aus
Actually, I have noted that a lot of issues I encountered with the 1.9 nightlies (msc sync, performance,…) have been solved not by emptying my library in Sonbird, but by removing the corresponding .Db files (almost all but songbird.db and the shoutcast one) and reimporting everything.
Just wanted to let your know, migration from 1.8 to 1.9 has to be checked carefully (and I’m sure you will, Aus). From my part, I don’t have any 1.8 db left, so I won’t be able to test that further
@klint
Totally. There is supposed to be a migration step already present to add the necessary magic to make things fast. It’s possible that it didn’t run properly for Darren.
@Aus
say, just noticed by chance with the latest build (1835) that the memory virtual size for Songbird after startupwith no data and no extension is 500 MB. Is that something we have to worry about, or?? In my memory (!), it used to be lower than that.
Working set is 33MB though.
Just asking
Thanks
@klint
This is somewhat normal. The Virtual Size includes all loaded dependencies. Working Set and Private Working set better reflect the actual memory use of the application.
Keep the work going! Will use songbird again if large libraries are supported.
I’ve got a 500 artist, 10,000 song, 77 Genre library and browsing via mouse clicks in Songbird is slow as hell. Scrolling down or clicking on an artist yields a 4-5 second delay before the artist is highlighted and I can view their albums/songs.
I do have Songbird Installed on drive E: and my library is contained on it’s own drive D: – Could this be the issue?
My OS is ran via an SSD, and I have a substantial system (i7 w 24gigs of ram). I shouldn’t be receiving this kind of input lag at all.
If you could comment, I’d appreciate that!
to Cam
I have the same issue ,man.The programm is not optimized to hand over 5000 files in library.too sad
Personally,I’d like to see few things to get me satisfied with songbird:
1.Good perfomance for library with 10000 files in.
2.Keep lyricsmaster and last.fm plugins working and updated
3.Full windows 7 integration
4.Spectrum analyzer maybe?
Bah, I’m hoping it is. I don’t like Winamp, and it’s my only other option right now. That monkey program is balls, I could go back to ITunes but I’d rather not.
@Cam
Have you already checked with the last 1.9 nightly with a fresh profile? Just reimport your tracks and try, you should see major improvement.
@klint
i’d like to try this 1.9 build for windows.However,i cannot find any link for this.
Any help?I’d appreciate this.
@klint
This version 1.8 is the first time I’ve used Songbird. I have not tried 1.9, I will try and locate a download for it.
Thanks!
@klint
1.9 is WORLDS different, thank you very much for your suggestion.
@fad3d
http://developer.songbirdnest.com/builds/trunk/latest/
That is the nightly builds for Songbird, alternatively you can also get it buy Googling “Songbird nightly builds”. Download and try the 1.9.exe not the MD5 one.
thanks a lot,man i’ll try thisone
@Cam, @fad3d
Yeah, you definitely want to use the latest Songbird 1.9 Nightly build
That’s where all the performance improvements are.
1.9 should easily be able to handle 10,000 tracks.
there is no 1.9 version for windows.Pity =(
I would like to stay in touch, What is your facebook page?
@fad3d
I’m on Win 7. There -was- a 1.9 for windows up there, but it seems gone now. Keep checking the link, I would imagine it’d pop back up soon.
@Cam
The nightlies are being generated and replaced almost everyday. During that process, the old version disappears before the new one is compiled, and this can last some minutes. Check again later, or the day after… Usually builds are done in the morning CET.
@klint
Awesome, thanks again!
Finally,i got the latest 1840 build and have to say it has very impressive library performance.Good job!
I suppose if you were testing on a library like that, which is bigger than my 16k track library, you had many problems?
I have windows 7 32bit, 4gb ram, quadcore AMD processor. and i can’t even add all my tracks or it force closes.
and even when i did somehow get all my tracks added, there was a 2-4 second delay when i clicked on any artist/genre/album.
Coming from Zune, i was hoping for better..
Hope the improvements come! I’ll start testing nightly to see how it works. hopefully this works out..
@Theo
The performance improvements are only available in 1.9 nightlies at this time. If you’re not a huge hurry, you can wait for the first beta of 1.9 to become available to start testing.
If you feel the need for speed right now though, the nightlies are the way to go.
Thanks Aus. I’ll do that now! oh and this the error i get,
Description:
A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows.
Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: AppHangB1
Application Name: songbird.exe
Application Version: 1.9.0.3774
Application Timestamp: 4bde522f
Hang Signature: 0507
Hang Type: 0
OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1033
Additional Hang Signature 1: 05078cfbe46b7094c578b1ff1fa78c81
Additional Hang Signature 2: 5c6b
Additional Hang Signature 3: 5c6b05b9266d4dce2ca12e40dd6093ce
Additional Hang Signature 4: 0507
Additional Hang Signature 5: 05078cfbe46b7094c578b1ff1fa78c81
Additional Hang Signature 6: 5c6b
Additional Hang Signature 7: 5c6b05b9266d4dce2ca12e40dd6093ce
@Theo
Hmmmm. I haven’t personally seen problems with the nightlies crashing at start-up but we have fixed a crash yesterday. You can try the latest nightly that appear tonight, it may help. It may also help to use a new profile. You can do this by using the ‘Songbird Profile Manager’ shortcut in the Start Menu. This way you can always go back to using your old profile in case you have data in there you want to save.
HI i’ve still have a problem on w7 64bits.
When i launch Songbird the Windows theme is broken ( opacity turn off and an ugly theme )
@iRyusa
Hmmm. That sounds like a bug in the QuickTime Mediacore Add-On. Can you try and disable it and see if it solves your issue?
Yep if you can tell me how xD
Hmm can’t edit my previous post, i forget to notice that it appears both on 1.8 & 1.9
Is this bug ever going to be fixed?
http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15710
(Skips last few seconds of songs)
I love Songbird, but this is really annoying, and I don’t know how to fix it. It happens on every one of my songs.
@NHogan – after looking that bug over, it’s definitely a serious problem. I’ve had some luck in my own library by simply shortening the gapless settings.
On my system I can reduce the buffering quite a lot before noticing any problems, and that might help reduce the problems induced from differing sample rates.
Shouldn’t the first two betas for 1.9 be out already? When can we expect them to be ready for download?
@LeMirque
We’ve now created the 1.9 branch to stabilize for Beta 1. We are expecting Beta 1 to become available in the next week.
Great! Looking forward to it. Thanks for the quick reply.
This nightly fixed the performance (artist/album filter) issues for me! Thanks
@roflharrison
Awesome!
@iRyusa
Go to Tools>Add Ons>QuickTime Playback>Disable
Hi,
Following the progress of Songbird and all is looking good, just a query on the CD Rip, is the cd lookup facility disabled, i.e only has the one option “Test Provider”.
Currently using Nightly Build 1868
Cheers
Darren
Great work on the performance enhancements.
Something i have always wondered is why no mediaplayer (at least that i’m aware of) allows you to rate a song while in mini mode. As soon as a good unrated song starts to play you have to enter normal mode, rate it and then go back thru the view menu. Becauce of this i never use the mini player.
Also if it was a little bit thinner it could be placed over any standard sized window bar and only cover one bar instead of one and two fifths. Would blend in better don’t you think?
Hi,
Answered my previous question however I’m getting the following JS error, happens when when clicking on the artist track, sometime the track listing isn’t displayed. Happens in Pane view but sometimes has track listings missing in the list view.
JavaScript Error.
playlist.xml – onPlaylistClick – [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80070057 (NS_ERROR_ILLEGAL_VALUE) [nsITreeView.getCellProperties]” nsresult: “0×80070057 (NS_ERROR_ILLEGAL_VALUE)” location: “JS frame :: chrome://songbird/content/bindings/playlist.xml :: _onPlaylistClick :: line 1910″ data: no]
Cheers
@anders
Have you ever tried the Pure Player mode? You’d be surprised
http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/1859
I have a library with ~32k tracks, ~2330 Albums, 1032 Artists and 64 Genres. I was/am running 1.8 and having severe performance issues. I was very pleased to find this thread as I immediately downloaded the current nightly build and I am thrilled with the performance. I was worried I would have to switch products.
I was also very please to find the search filter strings stays in place when switching profiles of filtering by the filter pane. I was constantly entering search criteria when in a playlist when I was meaning to be in the mail library. I hope that is in the 1.9 beta. It is in the 1.10 nightly 1868.
I use flac files exclusively and I noticed in this blog reference to not picking up album art when it is present in the meta tags of the selecting or playing file. I had noticed this myself but had not investigated. Is that being addressed in 1.9 or 1.10?
DEAR SONGBIRD TEAM
HERES THE TRUTH:
THIS PROJECT IS STILL IN A WEAK VERSION AFTER 3 YEARS OF DEVELOMEPEMENT!
You know that more than > 90% of all Songbird User’s installed your crap piece of software on a windows machine, but you still treat them only as third class customers.
only a few things for example…
- no aero glass support
- win64 is still unsupported !
- performance on wndows7 is a BAD JOKE !! SINCE 12 MONTHS !!
>>> FUCK YOU SONGBIRD DEV TEAM !
HOPE MOZILLA WILL CANCEL ALL THE MONEYHELP AND EVERYBODY OF YOU WILL LOOSE HIS JOB !
YOUR MANAGEMENT LEADERS SHOULD GET ANOTHER JOB INSTEAD OF WASTING OUR MOZILLA DONATIONS !!
GO TO HELL !!
@elfe2k
Quite honestly, I have only one thing to say to you: get bent. Mozilla doesn’t fund us. If you’re going to come into someones house and air out your dirty laundry at least get your facts straight, you a-hole.
@John Adams
Album art in FLAC files should normally work but there is a bug with album art when using a profile that is not the default profile (ie. When using the Profile Manager to create a new profile, album art will not show up as expected). We’re trying to squeeze this fix in for 1.9 but we’re not sure it will make it in.
@Darren
Indeed, this can happen when using the Search and Filtering using the filter panes and resorting the list on certain columns.
@Aus re elfe2k – yeah, srsly. If you’re going to rant, rant right. Shouting doesn’t make your non-facts any more truthy.
@klint – Oooooh, thank you! A medium player! Thanks for pointing that out!