Songbird 1.8 Beta 2 is Available

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We have a new beta build ready for you guys!  We tossed in support for a whole bunch of phones between the last beta and this one, and we nuked quite a few bugs.  The newly-added phones are:

  • Blackberry Storm 9500
  • HTC Magic and Tattoo
  • LG KU990i Viewty
  • Nokia N85, N96, and N97
  • Sony Ericsson W980

The nightlies page contains links to downloads for the Windows, Mac, and Linux builds.  Check the release notes for outstanding bugs, and log a new bug in Bugzilla if you find something we should know about.

Automatic updates are set up for this beta.  Beta 1 users: you can use the Check for Updates function to update to beta 2.

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  1. [...] taget. Nu känns det som att Songbird är på väg att hitta tillbaka till rätt spår igen och den senaste betan (1.8.0b2) känns otroligt mycket snabbare och gedigen än tidigare versioner. Efter att i stort sett inte [...]

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  1. Antoine Turmel Jun 28, 2010 3:40 pm Permalink

    First :)
    So 1.8 will be a final public version ?

  2. Aus Jun 28, 2010 3:48 pm Permalink

    Yes, 1.8 will be a public release.

  3. orbanbalage Jun 28, 2010 3:54 pm Permalink

    I know i should post it in Bugzilla, but i just lost patience :(
    I have 20k files in my library and even on a powerful configuration just selecting an artist and changing between views takes 2-3 seconds, and completely freezes up the UI since about v1.4. I’ve done a clean profile with every new build…

  4. Simon Jun 28, 2010 4:04 pm Permalink

    Performance is still horrible…

    – OS X

  5. malzfreund Jun 28, 2010 4:37 pm Permalink

    i really hope the final release of 1.8 will be much faster and more stable than 1.7.3…

  6. Evan Jun 28, 2010 7:19 pm Permalink

    Performance would be nice, but I’m sure (or I hope) you guys already knew that. Just different priorities and the ways of development I suppose.

  7. Wes Jun 28, 2010 8:06 pm Permalink

    I can barely browse my music library, performance is terrible.

    Honestly, let’s just rip video out of there and focus on performance.

  8. seba Jun 29, 2010 2:03 am Permalink

    I don’t understand you people. Tens of users have stated here they experience horrible performance issues since 1.7 and you wait to fix it until the next release. While performance improvements is something Songbird needs so badly, already before these new issues.

  9. klint Jun 29, 2010 3:24 am Permalink

    Not everybody has thousands of songs. I have 6K of them though, and do not feel that bad response times.
    So, it depends on the users and their usage of Songbird, and possibly most of the users do not suffer as much as you do. Hence the decision by POTI to not consider this issue as blocking a release.
    Of course, from your own end, things look different and make you angry, I can understand that. But from a global perspective, it may be different.

  10. Mort Jun 29, 2010 3:52 am Permalink

    Forget all wanted features!
    Forget all open bugs!
    Forget all your plans!
    As long as you don’t work clearly on the performance you can keep this piece of software. I am really dissapointed on how songbird processed during the last major and minor versions. :(

  11. mike Jun 29, 2010 6:55 am Permalink

    I still can even manage to import my iTunes library. Is this such an uncommen use-case???

    And I don’t get any help since 2 weeks or so on getsatisfaction.com. Now that not so cool. Who can I contact? IRC? Blog? Forum?

  12. mike Jun 29, 2010 6:57 am Permalink
  13. Fred Jun 29, 2010 9:33 am Permalink

    Seriously? SERIOUSLY? We’ve been bitching about how bad the performance is for *weeks* now and you just keep adding more device support and features no one cares about.

    SONGbird is meant to PLAY SONGS. In its current state it barely does that. Every release is getting worse and worse. Do I care about video? No. Ripping? No. Stores? NO. Tons and tons of mobile support. NO.

    If you try and conquer every feature out there you’ll wind up with a pile of barely working components… WHICH YOU HAVE.

    Songbird used to run great on my Windows box, played songs beautifully, had excellent response time even on a 30K library… now it’s a huge grinding pile of crap. Please fork your media components into a separate build, this is getting ridiculous.

    Foobar2000 might not be the prettiest, but I could care less about looks when Songbird doesn’t even function properly.

  14. Gandalf Jun 29, 2010 10:22 am Permalink

    everytime i try songbird i see potential in it but also everytime i try to use it songbird gets more and more bloated.
    It is nice to have tones of features but it is totally unusable. The performance is horrible.

    i also don’t see that nightingnale is getting somewhere, so the linux version is dying. Every management solution under linux is better then songbird for now. Most of them have more features and a way better performance. So why should someone want to use songbird.

    I hope you will change your concept a bit, at this state it is no alternative for me.

  15. Josh Jun 29, 2010 10:51 am Permalink

    It’s frustrating to see a piece of software go from beta 1 to beta 2 with absolutely no improvements in performance. POTI, when will you listen?! You’re fan base is going to start shrinking rapidly unless you make some serious changes to Songbird to make it FASTER. Update the platform to the newest gecko and mozilla platforms, and tie it all in to work quickly. Forget about features for just one release and focus solely on performance. Do this, and I guarantee you people will choose Songbird over any other full featured player out there.

    Until then, Songbird will only have a mediocre place on the web…

  16. carlos Jun 29, 2010 1:07 pm Permalink

    The album artwork still missing in Windows 7:(, in Windows Xp worked great
    Please fix this bug.

  17. Tommy He Jun 29, 2010 2:12 pm Permalink

    Well, songbird handles my 2k music library very well on fedora 13 box. I can see some performance improvement in 1.8.X release.

  18. besr Jun 29, 2010 2:22 pm Permalink

    Why is necesary to restart to upgrade or uninstall if a previous release is present?

  19. bill gates Jun 30, 2010 9:13 am Permalink

    Songbird is dead, move on ppl.

  20. Westside Jun 30, 2010 3:23 pm Permalink

    Not good going back to Amarok on my macmini!

  21. Jordan Jun 30, 2010 5:46 pm Permalink

    My great hope, one time long ago, was that Songbird would have better performance than iTunes. Clearly, that will never happen. Going to have to learn to love MediaMonkey. Bye bye!

  22. Lucas R. Martins Jul 1, 2010 4:51 am Permalink

    Tell us the truth: Songbird’s linux build is dead or not?

  23. carlos Jul 1, 2010 6:56 am Permalink

    When I open songbird, it doesn’t show my library, just a blank page.

  24. VAGolfDad Jul 1, 2010 12:19 pm Permalink

    Any plans for compatibility with the HTC Droid Incredible?

  25. ruppel Jul 1, 2010 2:42 pm Permalink

    @VAGolfDad:
    HTC Android 2.1 devices should work in Songbird with the MSC addon, including the Droid Incredible. While the only officially supported HTC Android devices include the Hero (v1.5-2.1), Magic (1.5-1.6), & Tattoo (1.5-1.6), the Incredible (v2.1) should for the most part be supported.
    Be aware that we do already have an Incredible bug filed, http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21409, and it won’t be fixed until a later release. That said, the phone is on our radar (see http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21434), so keep your eyes peeled.

  26. Lionel Bijaoui Jul 2, 2010 9:01 am Permalink

    I’m on Vista, and I have to say that since I updated from 1.7 to 1.8 I have seen a great improvement on my performances.
    And the new panel is so nice (and doesn’t disappear like the 2 other time, the reasons why I have updated to beta).
    So unlike many commenter, I have to say I’m quite happy with this new version. I don’t feel like I need more performance (though if you could It would be nice).
    Thank you songbird team, and good luck for the future, you are making the greatest player on earth !

  27. Krish Jul 2, 2010 12:07 pm Permalink

    with audio songs i have a large collection of video songs also. Most of them are in avi or mpeg. Is there any way i can play them in Songbird ?

    (Note : i don’t want to convert them in another format )

  28. noofny Jul 5, 2010 1:03 am Permalink

    Screw new features…focus on the performance issues! (please)

  29. Lenny Jul 5, 2010 9:20 am Permalink

    As I’m heading back to Songbird again it’s with great pleasure I qoute myself from my blog;

    “…the latest beta (1.8.0b2) feels incredibly solid and much faster than previous versions.”

  30. Edu Camargo Jul 5, 2010 11:17 pm Permalink

    @Lucas R. Martins The Linux Builds are still being developed, but you’ll find links to them only visiting the nightly builds page. They are not tested, nor they do appear in the Songbird’s main page.

    HTH.

  31. Edu Camargo Jul 5, 2010 11:22 pm Permalink

    @Jordan Have you plaied with Foobar2000?

  32. Aus Jul 7, 2010 3:42 pm Permalink

    @VAGolfDad

    Yes the Incredible should be supported in1.8 Final.

    @All

    Performance is always something we work on and we understand your frustration but it takes more than a few weeks to fix performance issues. We’ve heard you loud and clear though so expect some improvements there but not for 1.8.

  33. Tim Quin Jul 7, 2010 5:41 pm Permalink

    Can I get a Permanent Delete Song already. What are you people doing?

  34. Simon Jul 7, 2010 8:42 pm Permalink

    Aus,

    Finally – someone official mentions the performance issues. Although you haven’t said much.

    I’m sure everyone can understand if you have commercial reasons or whatever for focusing on other features, but as long as least acknowledge that SongBird currently runs extremely slowly for many users and have appropriate communication about possible reasons and the time to fix…

  35. jazzyguy Jul 8, 2010 7:57 pm Permalink

    OOOLA! This version is terrible!

  36. Drew Jul 11, 2010 12:39 am Permalink

    weird minor issue, but if you uninstall, it prompts you for the survey, but then takes you to the last page of it immediately. just a heads up.

  37. Lenny Jul 13, 2010 1:45 pm Permalink

    *testing to see if any of my comments go through*…. :-(

  38. dantek Jul 17, 2010 1:17 pm Permalink

    What’s happen with the shoutcast support?Will back in the new version?

  39. Alex Aug 3, 2010 10:56 pm Permalink

    will there be any support for the Galaxy S family? as of now it recognizes but it is not capable of syncing music

  40. kola Aug 4, 2010 8:00 am Permalink

    Songbird 1.8.b3 64/32-bit .deb installer
    https://sites.google.com/site/songbird18b3/songbird

  41. Glenn Davis Doctor G Aug 10, 2010 9:50 am Permalink

    Does this work with BB Tour?

    Glenn Davis Doctor G
    Recording with Whitney Houston

  42. Guilherme Aug 14, 2010 10:31 am Permalink

    There was a add on called Gridview, but it’s not being updated. Can you add something like it to songbird as you did with LyricMaster?
    Basically, the add on brings an appearance like the one we have in Media Player 11 and 12 and iTunes, so that we can select the artists easier.

  43. Keith Aug 18, 2010 2:40 am Permalink

    admin@Keiths-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get remove songbird
    [sudo] password for admin:
    Reading package lists… Done
    Building dependency tree
    Reading state information… Done
    The following packages will be REMOVED
    songbird
    0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
    After this operation, 119kB disk space will be freed.
    Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y

    (Reading database … 197554 files and directories currently installed.)
    Removing songbird …
    Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils …
    Processing triggers for python-gmenu …
    Rebuilding /usr/share/applications/desktop.en_GB.utf8.cache…
    Processing triggers for python-support …
    admin@Keiths-laptop:~$

  44. Solomon Oct 3, 2010 4:33 am Permalink

    For Windows users with large databases suffering from performance issues, just switch over to MusicBee at http://getmusicbee.com/ – in my experience, it’s more than lightning fast no matter the size your database!

  45. klint Oct 4, 2010 4:40 am Permalink

    @Solomon
    Or wait for Songbird 1.9 ;)
    We (users) have made some tests on nightlies that have proven excellent response time again, at last.