We’ve fixed the snag mentioned in our previous post. It wasn’t anything serious — just a UI glitch exposed during updates in which some remnants of the old Gonzo feather were showing up in the new Purple Rain feather, which made mashTape and LyricMaster hard to use. If you’re interested in the full details, head on over to bugzilla.songbirdnest.com and read up on bug 19334.
Just want to download it? http://getsongbird.com is for you. Waiting for your automatic updates? We’ll post ‘em later today (Tuesday in the US). See the 12/23 update below.
(Kanyebird is gonna let you finish, but he thinks the Gonzo feather was the best feather of all time.)

Update (12/23/09): The Gonzo feather really, really did not want to go away; we fixed yet another Gonzo-related bug (number 19365, if you really want to know) and released Songbird 1.4.3. Automatic updates will come out early next week.













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Subscribe“Kanyebird is gonna let you finish, but he thinks the Gonzo feather was the best feather of all time”
Kanye is the most arrogant of all time (he even thinks he’s some sort of prophet!) so therefore Kanyebird would probably only think that purple rain is the best of all time… HIS feather.
Looks good though
Sad, that Win7 64bit isn´t official supported
Change tha splash screen… It looks like an advertisement. And it’s absolutely unnecessary.
Working very well for me so far on Ubuntu once I got the Gonzo feather back in place
Can’t get it to do anything with my Nokia N900 though – are there any docs on how to sync etc?
The lack of support for the linux community is finally making me to switch over to another software.
Not only that all of these nice features like cd importing or msc device (which i would actually love) aren’t announced for linux based system (although i remember that cd importing was just a short time ago), I tried out your 1.4.2 today and it’s unable to start up under ubuntu 9.10. Sad but true. Let me just say, that out of the last 3 updates, 2 weren’t even working (in fact, they didn’t even started up) on the most up-to-date ubuntu system (1.2 + 1,4.2). And I only got 1.2 started by spending days in order to find a proper and working solution.
Regarding a project that is based on the principles of free software, the lack of support and attention shown to the linux community, which is the most important free software project ever, is not only hard to understand, it’s simply emberrassing.
I’ll be back, once you change your ubuntu and linux policy.
I love it! Purple Rain really makes Songbird stand lone among music apps now. The new icon rocks too! Great work guys! I’m so proud to see how far Songbird has come.
Congratulations on a release and updates that seem to be bringing things back together imo.
Now..
The conflict with the media management and watch folder aspect.. where neither can contain each other… Seems like Songbird creates this predicament by default on windows. How are non-techies supposed to figure that out? IS it not possible to make the arrangement by default, where ‘Songbird music’ file is in a different folder? Even myself, was such a headache trying to commit to a place for one or the other, I simply turned off watch folder, because I need the file management more.
Finally, on Songbird’s launch, I can live with the splash screen, though I would agree it lacks ’something’… what is a problem is the white/blank screen in my library as it apparently takes a while to figure out my library before loading it. It IS the library manager, so it should not have that hard a time
. I have not had this problem before. By the way, this is a clean install.
Thank you.
This is the image I am referring to:
http://i50.tinypic.com/mr4h0o.jpg
Ugh. The splash screen needs to go – it look horrendous. At least give us an option to hide it if you won’t remove/change it. Also, the quick launch icon is terrible. Who had the bright idea to put a solid black icon down there ? More of an eyesore now. Am I the only one that thinks the new look (Purple Rain) is terrible ? The look of the 1.2 releases was perfect – thankfully I see the Gonzo 2.0 feather is updated. Art director for the 1.4 releases should be canned, or given some vision insurance coverage.
The bookmarks addon doesn’t work, but it did in 1.4.1, apart from that Songbird is still great.
@deOmega
About your white library, are you using the Purplerain feathers, or a still incompatible feather? Try to switch back to Purplerain.
@Eva:I’m sure someone will develop an extension to remove/change the splash screen. While waiting for that, check in the blog post about the 1.4.1b2. There is a method to change it and some proposals for new splash screen.
@Naglis – Actually on some platforms (like Windows XP), application startup notification is sufficiently crappy that users weren’t realising that Songbird was launching, and so were trying to double or triple launch it. (which is why the splash screen is only on Windows). If you hate it that much (and it sounds like you do
), you can simply rename the splash.bmp in the Songbird application directory to something else and it will be gone.
@scouser73 – Thanks, I just updated the bookmarks addon so it should work in 1.4.2 now.
@klint
yes, it is a compatible feather, but if there is doubt, it also happens with purple rain, and here is a snapshot:
http://i49.tinypic.com/23rtkao.jpg
@deOmega – Ouch. Would you be willing to zip up your profile and send it over to me? (stevel at songbirdnest dot com) I’d be curious to take a look and see what it’s trying to do.
sure, no problem.. i may have to send you the whole thing if i cannot find out where 7 zip is storing the file when i click on compress and email… it just zips it and it disappears
I’m sure I’m about to sound like an idiot, but where is this CD ripping feature? I have a pre-release of 1.4.2 on my laptop and when I insert a CD a track listing appears in the bottom pane. But in this release nothing happens.
love the new feather mind.
What ever happened to the Community Builds?
Hey, nobody’s found the easter eggs yet…
Very happy with the release, thanks a lot!
(BTW, where did DOM inspector go?)
cool guys, thanks!
@Duv
We’ve never had the community builds for other OSs show up at the same time as our main release. Whenever the community build folks let us know they have builds ready, we’ll put them up.
You guys really need your own package server. Using getdeb, packman and various unofficial rpm servers is … awful.
Plus it will get you even more attention in the Linux world. I don’t understand why Mozilla doesn’t have their own package server.
@barry
I tried the CD Rip feature with 1.4.2 and the CD comes up fine in the CD Rip window. Please ensure you have the 1.0.0.1433 CD Rip Support version addon installed. Windows only feature.
@ Naglis, @ Eva, and others with feedback on the splash screen.
There was a long delay between windows wizard screen final screen to first Songbird setup screen showing up. No interaction for the user to let them know that installation was still happening. We are working on this performance improvement on start up time for a future release, but in that meantime, a splash screen at least communicates something is happening to the user.
Feedback on design of splash screen has been forwarded to UI design team. Heard you loud and clear
I’m disappointed that this update doesn’t get rid of the God-awful Purple Rain theme or the new black icon (which doesn’t work so well on black desktops, needless to say). Seriously, guys, get a UI consultant or something.
That said, thanks for the updates — both 1.4.1 and 1.4.2. 1.4 seems like a nice step up from 1.2. Keep up the good work!
P.S. You should really considering adding Podcast support sooner rather than later!
Not sure if this is a bug or not, but in previous versions viewing a webpage in a tab would hide the left pane (Library, Downloads, etc.), but now that pane doesn’t auto-hide for me anymore. I think it did auto-hide at first, but then I closed all the tabs (so that the tab bar was hidden), and when I hit Ctrl+T to open a new tab, the left pane won’t auto-hide anymore. Screenshot here: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2508/4206372511_3a761fdb04_o.png
Is this a bug?
Installed 1.4.2 over 1.2. Started songbird, splash screen appeared, then nothing was shown. Looked through the invisible windows and noticed the addon update window existing, but wasn’t visible. Changed it to visible and continued on with the first startup. WinXP SP3, dual monitors. Sorry I can’t make a formal bug report.
Songbird looks awesome except for the fact it keeps crashing on me on windows 7
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! I can’t stand having to reboot between uninstalls and upgrades of Songbird. What gives?
@trent: That is by design now. I just updated Gonzo 2.0 to re-add this functionality cause it seems like you’re not the only one. It would probably be a good add-on to make so all feathers can take advantage of it.
Couldn’t start any Songbird version since 1.2.2 on my Ubuntu systems until I deinstall package libvisual-0.4-plugin. Can you please fix this bug?
Aus: That is understandable, but I was more talking about a link to the wiki page that you have for Community Builds like Fedora Linux or OpenSolaris, etc. I find it a little odd that you don’t have even a simple link to it (no matter how outdated they are) on your main page like you normally did.
As far as my Distro is concerned (Fedora Linux), they has been word of the new build on the bug filing for submission to the Distro repo. So I guess that it will come in due time…. at least for testing.
Jan Leger just posted a comment: http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19273#c4 “Per todays bug triage, we will be keeping the splash screen in to ensure user gets UE that something is going on. We do not want it able to be disabled. Won’t Fix.”
Not to sound passive-aggressive, which this very much is, but has anyone you seen -one- single positive comment about the splash?
@KotW
) about the new black icon that renders very poorly in 16*16 pixels on my dark laptop with XP (maybe 2 different icons could ship with Songbird, and the user could select by just editing the shortcut), but I do like the concept of splash screen.
I’m not totally positive (not to say totally negative
Ok, I must confess that I don’t like the current image at all; so I have replaced it with one of Koshi’s artwork and it looks really nice, now.
@klint Don’t you go raining on my parade now!
Hahahah, it’s cool. You’re right about the new icon being hard to read, too – it doesn’t, does it?
I have very good feelings about this release.
But. Tried to sync my HTC Hero with a playlist. The problem is that Songbird adds the contents of the device to the MAIN library, creating duplicates, referring to the device’s drive. Erasing and re-mounting the device doesn’t help, duplicates stay in the library.
Overall, have high hopes about syncing. Songbird is becoming a drop-in iTunes replacement for Android-based device owners. But the syncing feature needs some time to become mature.
@dim
How did you do that? syncing should go one way, from the Library to the device.
Are you using the MSC addon or the MTP one?
I love the way songbird looks and feels, now. Very newbie friendly.
However, many things bother me about this release.
-No reason to have a splash screen anymore.. it’s obtrusive.
-Mini mode is way too big, now, and there’s still no way to dock
-Takes up way too much ram. After loading was taking up 120MB of ram. Winamp is 20 MB less. After playing a few songs songbird was over 200. Winamp goes up 10 or so.
-Does not seem multi-threaded at all. Anything that takes up any time during processing locks up the GUI effortlessly. This is very apparent when it’s indexing my music. It took 10 minutes to do, and I could not do anything with the interface during that time.
- VERY unresponsive. There’s a few second pause after clicking a song to load before it starts playing. After a song starts playing I cannot use the GUI for 3 more seconds after.
It looks great, but is VERY unusable at this point in time.
@MasterEvilAce Yeah, my first gut reaction to splash screens is, “This is so 90s!”
The thing is, you just opened the program. You know what you did – you just clicked the icon! “*SPLASH* HELLO! THIS IS PROGRAM X! YOU OPENED ME! I KNOW YOU KNOW BUT LET ME JUST RUB IT IN YOUR FACE ANYWAY! *SPLASH!*” – that’s redundancy.
Auto-update still isn’t seeing 1.4.2
@Eric N
We haven’t released auto updates for 1.4.2 yet. We’ll have a blog post when we do.
@MasterEvilAce
I can definitely tell you that Songbird is multi-threaded. However, some operations in the UI still need to be synchronous which is what causes the hiccups. The symptoms you describe sound like you have a biggish library. We try and improve performance for big libraries with every release so it should improve over time (as it already has).
As for Songbird going up to 200M of RAM after playing back tracks, that’s not something we see during testing typically here so it may be caused by something else like an add-on, a poor audio driver or the likes. You can always try running Songbird in Safe-Mode to see if the same problem happens. If so, please file a bug with as much info as you can, it will help us diagnose and fix the issue much more quickly.
@Duv
Ah yes, that link did vanish. However, you can still find the builds here: http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Developer/Articles/Builds/Contributed_Builds
Pretty easy to find in the meantime
Funny how you advertise MSC support right on your main page, but yet you don’t CLEARLY say it’s Windows only. Especially with the Moto Droid. Can you see how many MAC users are looking for an alternative to sync their Droids? With my 15k+ library I actually switched from iTunes, only to spend 15 minutes searching for information when I finally find in a nightly build link that it’s not supported for OS X. I understand developing a program and allocating your resources, but to say you have a program that works on all platforms, don’t pretend to play off that your addons work on all fronts. Some sort of an explanation would be helpful instead of playing your userbase.
@KotW: the reboots between (re)installations are a) Windows only, and b) a requirement of the Win32 driver model.
The only reason we do that now (1.2.0 didn’t make you do this) is because of that Windows-driver requirement; we wish we didn’t have to either.
Thank you for a great new release guys! I appreciate all of the time and pride you have been putting in. Here are some initial thoughts:
(regarding 64-bit on ubuntu 9.04)
On the first load I received the following message:
“Updating Library
Rebuilding library sorting data…”
I think that this message could be improved. It is kind of repetitive (updating library AND rebuilding library AND sorting data) and ambiguous — what does “sorting data” mean? Does it mean organizing songs? or all data?
I needed to remove 26,000 songs from the library.. this took about 30 seconds. It would have been nice for there to be a status bar.
I don’t see why I can’t do other things when importing music or when getting album artwork. Songbird just shows the progress of those tasks and doesn’t let you do anything.
tools>get album art
I did not expect this to get album art for ALL of my music.. it should state this, and perhaps offer an option to get album artwork for just one song (sure this is possible with the right click, but I don’t think it would hurt to have a menu option as well).
command line: I can’t figure out how to map a key to “next track” “play” “pause” etc. I think that songbird for linux should come natively with some command line options.
Thank you thank you thank you!!!
Well, it syncs all of my iTunes playlists now, which 1.4.1 didn’t do oddly, so thanks
Still need the exorcist updated if it hasn’t been already
I find it hard to see what is the point of the upgrade for linux. What are the extra features or improvements in the linux version (other than a new default skin?).
I’m running Ubuntu. Songbird seems very unstable (some features like mashtape or now playing list work or don’t work randomly)
The previous version used to start with 80 megas of ram consumption, now anything between 80 (not very often) to 150 (usually is more like 100)
This is said before, but the linux people have a point if they feel neglected. I find it hard to understand, Songbird is an Open Source project, it should have a better understanding/sympathy for Linux
UPDATE – a little happier now. First, deleted splash.bmp and the splash screen is gone and no errors on startup (that was easier than an about:config setting).
Next, I took the icon from the 1.2 version and copied it/named it songbird_classic.ico in my C:\Program Files (x86)\Songbird folder.
Finally I changed the shortcut properties to use the previous icon and I’m back to the previous look (mostly). Note that it took a full restart on my machine for the icon to change, probably could have cleared the icon cache, but I didn’t.
Now a combination of a missing splash screen, changed icon and Gonzo 2.0.x, my Songbird looks like the 1.2 releases. Now just need to wait for an update to the Customize Filter Pane addon.
@stevel
fwiw.. that white blank screen lasts about 10-15 seconds on my pc… and my pc is actually a decent one.
Somehow sync support for my Sansa Clip is gone with this update. With the previous version the sync worked to a degree (songbird wouldn’t remember the songs and library on the player, and some songs wouldn’t sync), but with 1.4 songbird doesn’t even recognize my Clip.
Wow! What a giant leap backwards aesthetically. Purple? Really?
I mean, I know there are plenty of feathers available, but as the default, this is horrible. The splash loading screen also looks pretty bad…
Oh, and remove the shadow from the bird in the logo.
k thanks
@deOmega: by any chance, do you have the CD Rip addon activated? Try to deactivate it and restart SB. Is the blank screen still there?
I ‘ve had issues with the CD Rip addon at startup already.
@Joseph Wang: do you have the latest firmware on your Sansa Clip? Also try the following (just a guess): go to the Tools/Option/General and rest all ignored devices.
Also, try to put the Sansa USB mode to MSC explicitely, and deactivate the MTP addon in Songbird.
Also, erase any SBsettings.xml file from Sansa’s root directory.
@Rob Hayes.
And I find the Gonzo one horrible..
Purple? Oh, that is so nice
Now, pick the one you like as an addon, that is the strength of Songbird!
By the way, the old Gonzo is now available as an addon (look for Gonzo 2.0)
But I agree with you on the Splash screen. Hope there will be an addon to remove or pick another picture
@Rob Hayes: saw you on Lifehacker
@Klint
Thank you, that made a marked improvement.. Still get the white screen though, but it only lasts like maybe 2 seconds now. Enough to where I can do a quick screen capture.
Is there a new roadmap coming? I’m interested in the focus points for team 1.4 while team 1.6 is playing with video support.
also interested in an updated roadmap.
Another suggestion for linux version:
in the downloads window, the right click menu should have options such as “show track in file browser” and “show track in library”.
Thanks again!
Well, I’m not too sure if the Songbird team put out a press release or everyone is just grabbing the same story from some site, but nearly everywhere I go reports that songbird can sync to iPods. It cannot, simply put. Is there no one out there who has the knowledge to fix the appropriate .dll (or whatever file is needed to be modified) and produce a working addon?
I understand that the iPod device support addon is no long supported by the actual Songbird team, but I feel, and I’m quite sure many other people feel, that it is a rather important part of the Songbird experience: without it what is stopping me from returning to the system raping beast that is iTunes, because at least it does the one thing I really need.
I almost regret having an iPod because of this problem. I love Songbird to death. It doesn’t install loads of crapware, it doesn’t ask me where I got my music, it doesn’t hog my system resources with any extra services. It’s far simpler than iTunes, cleaner too. I don’t want to have to switch back to iTunes or use some other media player that may provide more extensive support for my iPod because I like this product, but sometimes I need to fulfill other, higher priority wants, like actually being able to update my iPod.
I been using 1.4.0b3 for a while (in RHEL & Ubuntu).. I’m liking the new purple/black skin in 1.4.2.. The only thing missing were my bookmarks and this fixed fixed it: http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/1746
I liked that there was a Linux version for x86_64..
Some folks mentioned a splash screen in SB.. Is that a Windows thing because I’ve not ever seen one?
Anyway, kudos to all Devels for this release!!
I really want to use Songbird but can’t make the switch until there is podcast support. I now listen to podcasts more than music.
sadly ipod support is broken. no info in the internet about it whatsoever…
mashtape seems not working too…
Bah, forget iPod, I’d like Rockbox support!
On a more realistic note, is there a way to disable the panes on the right and bottom? They take up a much larger amount of space than I would like. Realistically, I don’t want them at all as I just use songbird for my music, and that’s _it_. Is there an about:config tweak I can do? I couldn’t find one…
Why nobody is updating the roadmap in songbird wiki ?
Another suggestion: a version number in or around the download button. Now I have to sneek into the blogpost to see that 1.4.3 came out.
+1 Pr1me
Anyone who can say me why i need to reboot everytime I uninstall songbird?
It’s a bit annoying to quit everything and reboot.
Ist there a way to stop the installer from forcing me to reboot before I can reinstall songbird?
Thanks and Greetings
@scott
There are command line options already for Songbird. Here’s a quick list:
playback.volumeup
playback.volumedown
playback.nexttrack
playback.previoustrack
playback.playpause
playback.pause
playback.stop
You can use them by invoking Songbird with –hotkey=
@Chauncellor
You can collapse those panes using the splitters. After they are collapsed, they will never pop open again and it disables the display panes that are inside of them too.
@ChaoZz
Songbird installs system libraries to support CD ripping. When uninstalling it’s often necessary to reboot for those to be removed properly. It won’t prompt unless it absolute needs to do so that it can remove the system files. I’m afraid there’s not really any way around that unless you don’t plan on reinstalling afterwards.
@Deepak
That’s because we haven’t settled on what we’ll be working on for future releases. When we have, it will be updated.
Ok, Aus
i think there is one more problem when i expand both the right pane and bottom pane, right pane hides some portion of the bottom pane and there is no scroll bar for see content there…
here is the screenshot
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/aao0L17qzBe7udzauWNAXw?authkey=Gv1sRgCM-XqfSg97aOwgE&feat=directlink
Yeah, splash screen makes the program look cheap. (Also highlights how long it can take Songbird to start…) Lame.
@klint:
I had both MSC and MTP installed. After reading your response I disabled MTP, removed duplicates manually and tried again. It worked fine, no phantom tracks appeared. Maybe the problem was a conflict between these 2 plugins.
Songbird still can’t watch multiple folders, and it still does not handle multiple tags with the same name correctly. Instead, it has a new feather and can rip CDs. Bye Songbird, hello foobar2000.
@Evan
It’s Christmas, so : http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/1772
No more Splash!
Asus,
Great, thanks for the tip!
I can’t seem to get the shortcuts to work though. I have tried:
songbird –hotkey=playback.playpause
and
songbird -hotkey=playback.playpause
could you tell me what i am doing wrong? Is there a man page?
Thanks
Thanks for the release, I have been using 1.2 happily and eagerly awaiting updates. But I was greeted by a black mess, almost driving me back to bad ‘ol Windows Media Player.
Why no option to get rid of the ugly splash screen?
Why not continue using the Gonzo feather as default?
Why that black blotch of an icon?
It looks as if the designers at Songbird got fired from the team and someone else hi-jacked the project! Gonzo 2.0 gave some relief but still, what’s up with the thick borders on the right/bottom side bars?
Why Why Why Why Why
Please read the posts above to find the solution to get rid of Splash screen.
). But you have Gonzo 2.0 as the closest alternative.
Gonzo will not be default anymore as a new default feather has been developed in replacement (that I find visually far more attractive IMHO
And the thick borders have been implemented to give easier control on the right and bottom panel opening and closing.
I think the new display pane toggle system is a lot more intuitive and easier to use, but I feel that there are several additions/features that would make them better and more customizable for those who don’t like them:
Make the buttons resizable. Even an addon that would allow users to set the pixel size of the toggle buttons, like with the original Opera sidebar and AIOS.
When maximized, the right-side toggle button should be on top of the border: IE, users should be able to drag their mouse all the way to the right side of the screen and click to toggle.
Apply the same functionality to the library display pane (the left side pane). There has been a big filed for this: http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19293
If anyone agrees with me on this, please file a bug/feature request and vote those you agree with up. If you really want the dev team to make changes, bug requests are going to be the best plan.
@Michael Purses Thanks for adding that functionality to Gonzo 2.0…works perfectly now!
I just realized that I expect almost six months for a new version and it came without CD RIP for Linux? Someone from the team noted that Linux users are not ghosts?
Again, not surprising. Windows users get the goodies, and Linux and Mac users get left in the dust. It’s always interesting for me to download each new release to see how far Songbird still has to go. Sure, it has a new default feather (another step back, IMO). Still no CD rip. Poor OS integration. Where is iTunes without the cruft? Not here.
Very helpfull for my project, I will translate this text and i’ll link to you, ok?
Every release a bit better but …
– still to slow
– still no sub-folders like in iTunes
– still no video support
Try to do it like the Chinese: First copy the original, than become better! (this should not be to difficult if iTunes is the original)
hi,
will there be an updated roadmap in the future? I would like to know when the MTP-Support will be ready for linux.
Just downloadead 1.4.2 for Linux. Starting the Application takes about 1.5 minutes, skipping a song about 30 seconds. Where are the promised improvements in stability & performance? Are there any improvements for Linux at all since 1.2? (a new feather doesn’t really count as long as the core isn’t working properly and i don’t like purple anyway). The whole update and development policy more and more reminds me of openmoko, where the devs where switching the toolkit every month, discussing colors for the gui and brainstorming about what fancy features they should implement with the accelerometer while you still couldn’t use their “free’d phone” for making a phone call (nor for anything else).
When i first discovered songbird i was so glad finally having found a media-player which fits nearly all of my needs (itunes-like library organisation, integrated store…) and furthermore looked great. Now that i’ve been using songbird and watching its development-process for a few months i find it to embarrassing to recommand such a hardly working piece of software to anybody. Nevertheless i still believe that the project has the potential to become the best (free) media player and hope that the devs will readjust the focus to the really important tasks (performance, cd-ripping, getting features homogenous among different platforms imho).
@Gandalf,
see the end of this comment: http://blog.songbirdnest.com/2009/12/22/songbird-1-4-2-is-posted/#comment-68498
Basically, they are still trying to figure out what they will do. Once they have a plan, they will post it.
@lada,
I agree and sympathize with what you said. But let’s stay positive. I think that the Songbird dev team does care about Linux. All the developers seem nice patient, and are genuinely interested in what everyone thinks. Let’s keep giving them constructive suggestions and see what they do with them in the future.
Its running faster than 1.2 on Windows 7 64bit
Purplerain looks good its growing on me…
Also I like the splash screen, shows me that its actually doing something, so I know that it actually started up.
@lada
None of us have ever experienced that kind of super slow startup and we’ve definitely never seen Songbird take 30 seconds to go to the next track. You should try creating a new profile by starting Songbird with -ProfileManager if you haven’t already. It’s important to note that if you were using a pre-existing profile, Songbird will have to port the library to the new library schema which can take several minutes and that’s _normal_. Rewriting a database isn’t something that’s ever lightning fast
If you still have problems, we’d love to hear from you through a bugzilla bug report so that we can replicate the conditions you’re experiencing.
@Aus
I agree with lada’s comments. When I run Songbird (but on Vista rather than Linux) with the new Purple Rain theme, it takes > 90 seconds to load up. I can double click the Songbird icon and then go off an make a cup of coffee and still be back before it loads. I tried deleting the entire library listing and then reimporting the library but even having done this on subsequent attempts to start it it is still embarrassingly slow. I haven’t even bothered trying to install the new Songbird under Linux, I have switched back to Banshee for that for the time being.
I’m a great fan of songbird.
Just a few quirks:
1. still no support for FLAC tags, my album art (tagged correctly in mp3tag and shows up in winamp) is not showing up in songbird
2. transcoding FLAC to WMA not working for me, it crashes everytime (I’m using Sony X1000, anyone else have luck with this combo?)
Hopefully these can be fixed…
@LingLing7 FLAC tags are working fine for me, only album art is still unsupported. I miss my album art!!!
Hope this will be included soon, must be quite straight forward…
Definitely a big improvement over 1.2, you can actually search a large library now
A few comments
1. Automatic watch is still not 100% flawless: I sometimes get files not being added or not removed leading to incorrect paths. Thus a “force rescan” option should exist, for instance in the file menu (optimal) and/or as a button on the Options>Media library>Watch folders tap. Currently I go to the library tap, click browse, click to OK the same path as before, click OK to close options: Songbird now asks if I would like to scan my “new watch folder”. This is both confusing (I did not choose a new path) and not a very obvious way to force a rescan.
2. Shouldn’t a rescan remove missing files from the library? Mine will not do this. Files that had incorrect paths before were not removed but instead link to the root of the songbird drive (c:\). The files are on a different partition by the way. Duplicate files with correct paths were also added.
3. Another thing that strikes me as weird is the lack of info about the track that is currently playing and how you are unable to quickly return to and album, eg. to check out what track will play next. I don’t want to create a playlist every time I listen to an album (if that is what you’re supposed to do!?!) and there is no queue like in Winamp.
The title – artist – album “link” above the playback progress bar could be really great solution, but the way it works now seems inconsistent in filter pane view: The user must be viewing a selection that contains the current track, otherwise the “link” (?) has no effect!
I want to be able to customize which tags are used to describe the currently playing track, and then click these (eg. title, album, album artist and artist) individually as selection terms and have the filter panes updated accordingly.
@Lasse
Try this: http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/1782
Also, you can just click on the album title in the now playing bar, that should help with your third issue.
I haven’t used Songbird on over a year. I thought Songbird would have matured better by now. I have a Ipod Nano 2nd Gen, the Ipod addon does not work at all for me. Running W7 (64bit) here. I’ve reinstalled Songbird, reset the Ipod to factory defaults and nothing happens. I understand there may be issues with Apple locking things donw but your support (that I can find) is about as clear as MUD as to whether or not the plugin works or not!!! If it doesn’t work, pull the plugin out and state that it’s still “work in progress” or something.
Secondly, I added “Foldersync” addon. I cannot find ANYTHING to launch the addon!!! I’ve looked everywhere on Songbird, I looked at the screenshots on the addon page and I DON’T have those buttons!!! Again, I can’t seem to find decent support info to help me.
I’ve wasted 4 hours of my time tonight installing, uninstalling, rebooting, looking everywhere but I’m right where I started.
I’m back from my last rant about the new UI. I don’t encounter operational bugs as others do, and I was always pleased by Songbird’s non-intrusive, neutral, and pleasing UI, but I am giving up on Songbird because changes I consider annoyances are perceived by many as bonuses. Thick bars for better control? Sure, let’s offer that “great” idea to Microsoft for free to include in Excel, so that it’s easier to control cell widths!
“Songbird is customizable” like Linux is customizable – you can get it to look like XP pixel for pixel given enough effort. But Firefox didn’t get where it did by being a special kid – it just feels right by default.
I wonder how many loyal users are put off by the redesign… Purple rain’s depressing black obviously requires “growing into” rather than being as transparent an UI as possible. A black UI was fashionable in the Vista era, but Windows 7 uses a lighter theme. So does Mac OS. If Songbird team and other users insist that every change is for the better, I guess I won’t stick around to praise it to its niche.
Thank you for all the recent updates. I have a problem with smart playlists. They don’t autoupdate (only when you restart the program they do it once). Furthermore, if you create one with a condition “last played is not in the”, then the number you put in the field, e.g. 1 month, always disappears if you open the properties again. Do I only have this problem or is it a common one that will be fixed soon?
@katana346
Thanx for the Exorcist tip. I can’t believe an add-on is needed to fix such a basic library management feature though! Just want to hit the rescan button and know that my library will be 100% consistent afterwards.
As for the “link” in the now playing bar, these only work if you’re allready viewing a selection containing the track playing. In filter pane view this is often not the case, at least not the way I browse my library. Real, working links could be a powerfull featureI think.
@Gertan: does this bug reflect your experience? If so, please add a comment to it, by specifying your OS and OS language.
http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show_bug.cgi?id=19249
Thanks
@mcjv: I personnally like the new UI very much… but you really can’t tell the number of people droven away from SB from the posts here, as one usually comes in such places to rant rather than to praise
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About customizing, installing another Skin/feather is just a couple of clicks away, starting from the menu bar. So, I don’t think your comparison with Linux can apply. Customizable also means the soft is not bloated from the beginning by unneeded features. You can install just those you need.
By the way, do you look for a thinner bar? Thank the Ne+ feather (I do prefer the thick bar though, it really makes gripping easier).
Hope this helps.
Any link to download the 1.2.2 version ? I’d like to downgrade
@Klint
Indeed I have this bug. It’s exactly the same. I have Windows XP.
Just to detail the bug (I’ll do it), in which language are you running Windows XP?
Thanks
@mateo360: I don’t think there is a 1.2.2 but you can find the latest 1.2.1 builds here: http://developer.songbirdnest.com/builds/Songbird1.2/latest/
By the way, may I ask you why you want to downgrade?
Merci
@Klint
In English (U.S.), why do you think it matters? Thank you for registering.
@klint Ne+ is really good. I don’t normally like dark skins, but along with Spotbird (and Gonzo 2.0, obviously), it really is the most mature skin for Songbird atm.
Excellent work with all of the above!
@Gertjan… because there was another issue linked to date format, but actually, I don’t think it’s related to that on. Thanks
hola
tengo una idea para la proxima entrega
en mediaflow, cuando suene una cancion, la caratula del disco de la misma, podria cambiar al videoclip de la cancion
suerte
adios
The splash screen is not bad idea it’s even probably a plus, but the current picture is just really bad… no more brushed aluminium please!! (this goes for the new getsongbird.com site as well) Especially since the graphics produced by the team around songbird since the beginning are usually quite good.
@Gilles (and others): then go to the addon website and do a search on “splash”. Songbird is so extensible…
Songbird didn’t want to play my songs so I’m downloading the new version.
I hope it will b able to work.
I love Songbird, looks like I’m addicted to it :-p
I just dowloaded the new version of Songbird and it still doesn’t want to play my songs.
I click on a song or an album and nothing happens.
I would like u to fix this problem if possible. It worked well this morning.
@RnB_001: Check if you have the Now Playing List installed.
@ Lasse
Although I disagree that this should be a part of the SB core (the way I see it, nearly every “feature” should be add-on rather than a core feature, thats what makes songbird songbird, and why I use it in the first place), I could see The Exorcist being added to the list of recommended add-ons.
Perhaps you could file a feature request for adding Exorcist to the recommended addons list? You could even file one asking that such a feature be added to the core just to see the support you get. User feedback is what fuels this project, and if the community speaks (in a way that can easily be gauged by the developers: this is where bug requests come in handy with the voting system), then the dev team will listen.
@ all the people who are whining about the new feather
Go look up “addons”, “skins”, or “feathers”. The point of SB is that you can customize it however you please, and that you DONT have to keep the default look. I, like many others, actually like the new look, but if you don’t, there and many more to choose from. Hell, you can even make your own if you are that concerned.
good article and thanks for share this!
I test it
happy new year
tb
Been using Songbird for YEARS and love it… until I downloaded this version. Just 10 minutes ago I was rocking to my 2nd gen iPod Nano via Songbird 1.2 and read about 1.4 on Gizmodo. So, I downloaded the new version, set it up, and… nothing. It doesn’t recognize my iPod being plugged in. In the error log, there’s just tons of errors too
Oh noes! Please don’t make me go back to iTunes!!
I have Songbird 1.4.1b2 Build 1419 currently installed. I have downloaded version 1.4.2 but the uninstaller is missing from the current songbird program files directory. So the new installer can’t uninstall the old version. Where can I get an uninstaller for my currect songbird?
Songbird has problem with feathers:
i downloaded some feathers (just to choose one of it). But then i coudn’t enable any of it. No, a can click “enable”, but it wount change anything – it will be the same “purple rainforest”.
Hi!
Yes, I have the “Now Playing” list and I tried to make it work this morning but it didn’t work.
So I downloaded Winamp but I really hope u guys will b able to fix Songbird’s problems
@Alex Monk: you have to use the “Display/Feather” menu option to change feather.
@RnB_001: what are the setttings of the NowPlaying? Also, try to deactivate it and make another test.
Thanks! Sorry for my idiotizm)
When I said that I was seeing the “Now Playing”, I was talking about the album art. Where do u c the settings?
In fact, it plays the songs really fast but I can’t hear anything.
If there r a lot of problems on the new Songbird, I’m going the downgrade it if I can find it or I’m going to use another MP3 player.
Right now, I’m using Winamp.
I love Songbird and I really hope u’ll b able to release a version which has no bugs at all.
Thanks
To those who dislike the splash screen I made a modification to it, a think it’s a lot better
here it is: http://img136.yfrog.com/img136/9026/splashsm.png
convert it to .bmp, name it ’splash’ and put it in your songbird root folder
and comment plz =D
Hi,
I really want to try this new version of songbird but really afraid too when i see all of these problems, the previous version was just a nightmare for me on XP, errors to read songs on 80% of my music. Is there a portable version or are you planning to make one ? I continue to use VLC and shit folders for now coz’ there is no way that I go with iTunes.
@mehdi: I don’t think you will harm anything by tring. If I were you, I would create a brand new and clean SB profile (use the -p parameter in the command line), install SB 1.4.3., and import your songs.
would have shown you that non only there is an “official” portable 1.2 version by PortableApps, but already some portable versions of the 1.4 betas. So, it is just a matter of time, I guess
About the portable version, Google being your friend too
@RnB_001!
There is no such software with no bug at all, unfortunately
Which extensions with Now Playing in their title do you have (Tools/Addons)?
Also, which formats are your songs? And where are they located? On a external or internal hard drive? If you go on a song in Songbird, and right click to locate file, what do you get?
And what do you mean by ‘play the songs very fast”???
Hi
All my songs r located in an external hard drive and all of them r in the MP3 format.
I deleted all my songs and I’m importing them again into Songbird. Hope it will work.
When I click on “Show File”, it opens a file and my songs r in the format “MPEG Layer 3 Audio File”. That is y my songs can’t b played.
I can’t explain how the songs r played “very fast”, sorry
I just imported all my songs into Songbird and it works fine.
Thank u for ur help
Sorry if I offended u by saying something.
No you didn’t at all
Glad to read that it works again…
Just to be sure: when you say that you were able to find the files with “Show file”, di you do that BEFORE or AFTER re-importing the songs?
The reason I’m asking is that when a song is in SB’s library but the file itself is not there, SB may give the impression to play the song “very fast” (it skips the song actually, but it’s like it was played in half a sec!)
Well, I looked at the “Show File” while I was re-importing my songs into Songbird.
And u explained the fact that Songbird “played the song very fast”. Thank u.
I wanted to explain the same thing but I couldn’t find the words.
The file was in Songbird, I don’t know y it refused to play.
Any idea how can I turn my songs which r in the MPEG Layer 3 Audio File format into the MP3 format? Thanks
I was using Winamp before, that is y I have this format.
Songbird used to be very good, but something has changed with th 1.4 release. It seems as songbird has lost its innocence. Web browsing features are important in my opinion, and it is them that makes songbird unique. I used to LOVE the player, but now I a, loosing faith into it. How sad. It always worked graet for me. WHY did you remove the bookmarking feature so that now it is necessary to get an extension for that? Seems so illogical to me. And then these graphical issues. Obviously the graphics team changed. I liked the skills of our old one better, but this is just an opinion. As above: WHY WHY WHY? I said a lot about what I don’t like, but thanks for all the privous work, which gave me many hours of entertainment with the software yet.
@RnB_001
I think MPEG Layer 3 and MP3 are one and the same thing
And if your files are playing correctly after you imported them again, there is nothing more to do, it’s fine!
cd rip addon doesn’t work for me (xp pro sp3 32bit)
as soon as i enable the cd rip addon and restart songbird, it stays at the splash screen and sometimes freezes my whole pc, i have to use songbird’s safe mode to disable the cd rip addon again to be able to use songbird, annoying…
@yellow_bird
http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/1746 Songbird Bookmarks
http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/1768 Gonzo 2.0
Much better than 1.2 overall. Though the cover art is slowing Songbird down seriously, I have a slow internet connection and songbird ceases for about 10 seconds whilst it finds album art. Annoying but at least I know what’s up with Songbird now, once a track has artwork there’s no delay.
@Gareth: you can disable the fetch using the preference :
songbird.albumart.autofetch.disabled in about:config (boolean set to true)
@klint thanks a lot! Definitely like to see this fixed in the next version. Saves embrassement in front of friends when it locks up for a moment.
Have you noticed that artwork doesn’t get saved locally to the folder? Is this a normally behaviour? Otherwise, although editing metadata on ogg/flac’s is slow, it’s bareable.
Actually artwork is by default saved in a dedicated folder under control of Songbird (with the Songbird database pointing to them).
Then, in addition, if you choose to do so (by default, it’s “Yes”) and if the file format allows it, the artwork is also saved in the file itself as a tag (but not in a separate file in the same folder).
(Forgive me for my poor writing skills)
Its very stable on ubuntu 9.10, yet as many said, purple rain is strait up terrible. I am very disappointed that the control buttons and track info have been moved to the top. I don’t see why that needed to be changed. I’ve been using songbird for since it was in the beta and I don’t see why that needs to change. Many of the add-ons I previously had were taken away. I do like the fact that songbird searches for album art in the corresponding folders. It is damn hard to keep an organized music library when a person has over 14k songs. This feature is one of my favorites because I don’t spend as much time searching for album art. you are probably working on CD burning support but I just thought I’d mention it.
Songbird fix your mistakes and listen to the users because we are the ones that live the nest of songbird.
@dma52691
Player controls are displayed on top by default, but you can move them to the bottom via View menu or by right-clicking the control pane.
Editing the meta-data is slow, and then once I’ve proceeded to the next song, the previous reverts as if I’ve not edited it at all, with the exceptions of the track number that I put in.
Can someone tell me what’s next? I tried the latest 1.6.0 nightly but that’s still Gonzo feathered, and after the 1.4.3 release there is no 1.4 nightly build. Is there a future for the 1.4 branch or will it merge with 1.6 on the road somewhere? Please release a new roadmap! =)
special niche feather = Purple Rain = default
default-looking feather = Gonzo = downloadable option
it doesn’t make sense. and the changes in art direction are unfortunate.
also genius: moving the next/prev player controls right next to the forward / back browser buttons.
Check to make sure all of your plugins have been updated before trying to upgrade. The upgrade process wont warn you until AFTER it removes your current version. Which doubly screws you as now you’re stuck with nothing that works. That should get fixed it’s a bad design, if I’m running plugins check for their availability in the new version before removing my currently working setup.
Whoa, now. Does Songbird automatically fetch artwork for you now? That would be VERY bad for my particular library. Or has it been there?
I noticed a mentioned “songbird.albumart.autofetch.disabled” boolean value. Must I use it to prevent Songbird from deciding what my artwork is?
I’m going to rant now!
I used to love SB. Although there were some issues I didn’t like too much (e.g. how extremely slow it is with a larger library) I liked the idea and in many cases also the implementation and extendability with those great add-ons that do exist.
But with 1.4.x too many things went bad.
It’s especially the lack of information I would say.
The release notes for all the 1.4 versions are just the same and quite wishy-washy.
Nowhere it is mentioned there that:
a) Artwork is now automatically fetched.
b) Bookmarks are now removed and an add-on has to be used instead.
c) It doesn’t work on Windows 7 anymore (at least for some)
d) IPod support doesn’t seem to work anymore
I had 1.4.2 installed and my IPod was detected, it is not anymore on 1.4.3.
Others reported that 1.4.2 worked on Windows 7 and that it doesn’t anymore on 1.4.3.
1.4.2 is not mentioned in the release notes.
No way to see what changed between 1.4.2 and 1.4.3.
I do NOT believe that it was just fixing one bug (19365) as mentioned in this blog entry.
The add-on ‘IPod Device Support’ was always installable with 1.4.1 and 1.4.2.
It is not anymore with 1.4.3 and even not anymore with 1.4.1 and 1.4.2, although there is no new version for it and is is nowhere mentioned in the version history of this add-on.
I know about the troubles with the iPod and that this add-on is now not anymore part of the core development, but why is it so hard to get such essential information in places where one would expect it in the first place.
One has to read thru blogs and bug reports and stuff to get more information about what’s going on. And even there it is nowhere clearly stated what happened between 1.4.2 and 1.4.3 so that the IPod is not detected anymore (at least I couldn’t find any info on this)
So please write better release notes and inform the users what they can / have to expect with a new version!
E.g.:
Added support for….
Removed support for…
I’m not sure what I should do at the moment.
Just spent some days to rate my library in SB so that I all the stuff I like makes it on my 30 GB limited iPod.
I once was so glad that I could get rid of iTunes, but it seems I have to switch back again. (with doing all the rating again, arghhh – B.T.W.: Anyone knows if it is possible to import ratings from SB to iTunes?)
Or is it possible to get 1.4.2 or 1.4.1 somewhere?
Just tried the link in the release notes for 1.4.1 where it says:
‘Download Songbird 1.4.1′
Guess what? Yeah right! -> You’ll just get 1.4.3 instead…
@Chauncelor
Yes, just set it to TRUE and it won’t fetch artwork for your. But it will fetch it once only, and only if it’s missing, and you always can delete it afterwards (in that case, it will left empty and won’t be fetched anymore).
@Chlorophyll
I agree that some important changes could have been added to the release notes and maybe will (like bookmark and Gonzo replacement by addons).
But just 2 notes about the iPod addon and Windows 7
- I think you have a warning when you install SB on Windows 7 and the system requirement pages does not mention Windows 7 as being officially supported (although many people have reported it to work fine with it). So there is no ambiguity about it being not supported, isn’t it?
- and the iPod addon has been made not compatible anymore with 1.4.x (it was supposed to be at 1.4.1 go live date, but by accident it was only some days after). Like any other non-recommended add-on, it is not in the release notes as it is not part of Songbird core anymore.
@klint
OK, Windows 7 issues I just came across when looking thru blogs – I myself do not yet have it installed – so I shouldn’t talk about something where I have no own experience with, sorry!
‘- and the iPod addon has been made not compatible anymore with 1.4.x (it was supposed to be at 1.4.1 go live date, but by accident it was only some days after). Like any other non-recommended add-on, it is not in the release notes as it is not part of Songbird core anymore.’
Yeah, but all (better and/or important) add-ons have a release history themselves and always the version number of them changes when they support new versions and even this compatibility changes only are mentioned in the release history.
So why for the iPod Device support add-on there isn’t such an increase in the version number and in it’s release notes there is not mentioned something like ‘removed support for 1.4.x’?
And, I even think, that not only the max-version itself was changed for the iPod device support add-on, since if I change it manually again to be compatible with 1.4.x, then it doesn’t work anymore although it once did work with 1.4.1 and – if I remember correctly – with 1.4.2. So there has been changed something too in the code of this add-on. I could be wrong, but this is my experience.
I re-installed 1.4.1 and 1.4.2 yesterday evening but without luck to bring the iPod back onto the display of Songbird. Could it be something else? I tried to disable all add-on’s that I newly installed or updated, but no, the iPod doesn’t show up anymore.
God damn the new “Purple Rain” UI is ugly. What happened to clean, professional interface from 1.2? Now it looks like some cheap shareware that was slapped together by a team of amateurs. Seriously, it is that bad. Even the Gonzo 2.0 feather doesn’t really make things much better with the terrible fat show/hide bars next to the content panes.
And what purpose does the splash screen serve? Like others have said, not only does it look ugly, there’s simply no need for it and it just adds to the poor level of the overall design. I seriously hope for 1.6 the devs go back to the 1.2 interface and just keep all the other changes under the hood.
Not trying to rain on the parade. I did find 1.4 to be faster and more responsive than 1.2, but seriously… new interface team please?
What? 1.4.2 synced iTunes playlists, and now 1.4.3 fails to do so. Songkick concerts have frozen on me(more of an add on problem).
At least it plays my Rubber Soul album, as iTunes is now failing to do so…
I don’t like the new design. Too purple
It’s the Purple Reign
!
@Chlorophyll
About the iPod device support, the addon is only compatible up to 1.3, not up to 1.4, because they are issues with it in 1.4.x, as you have noticed by yourself. Too many issues to mark it compatible even with a warning message actually. That is very sad, I do agree, but it could remain like that until someone from the community raises and resumes the development of this addon, as the addon has been outsourced.
@klint
please reread my previous comment.
What I said is, that – if i manually change the max version – it doesn’t work anymore, although – at least for me – it used to work at least for 1.4.1 and I’m quite sure also for 1.4.2.
Also the question about why there is no new versions number and why the version history entry for the decrease in the compatibility for this add-on is not answered?
This is my main concern. Why is such important stuff not well documented and why are such questions in blogs not answered exactly?
The SB team acts like bad politicians in the last time by answering questions about iPod issues very evasive (hope this is the correct English term!).
@Shannon: +1 – I don’t like neither the splash screen nor the new feather. I still feel like the bookmarks should be added by default. And please, make it easier to manage them.
Looking forward to downloading the next version with video support. And please, provide it with subtitle support.
Is it just me, or is 1.4.2 WAY slower than the previous version?
Admittedly, I’m running it off a portable drive, but… every single operation takes longer, even ones that really shouldn’t be I/O bound.
@Chlorophyll: To respond to a couple of your points:
No way to see what changed between 1.4.2 and 1.4.3.—Not true; there are multiple ways, in fact. You can diff the release tags (which now exist), or you can look at the changes.txt file which goes into every nightly build (to get this information, look at all the builds between 1.4.2 and 1.4.3; there was only one anyway).
The SB team acts like bad politicians in the last time by answering questions about iPod issues very evasive.—We haven’t been evasive on this point at all; the iPod addon has issues with the 1.4-series builds. Our Support Champs have heard of many problems with the addon. Because of this, we removed the version of the addon that was compatible with 1.4, and which was actually released during the 1.4.0-preview release cycle. The addon you were using was never tested or intended to be used with 1.4.1, 1.4.2, or 1.4.3.
The fact that you may have gotten it working was luck at the most, and it likely would not have continued to work.
The iPod addon currently unmaintained, and if you want to sync your iPod, we provide that functionality via the iTunes import/export feature.
Use that instead.
This version of songbird is the most buggy one i saw so far and I am using it since version 0.1.
I am very much dissapointed after already two hours of using it after doing a full reinstall. I had 1.2 before it that was way more stable, consistent and less messing around with my files.
Editing mp3-tags does work for a second and is then turned back in at least half od the times you try that. My media library does not show what it should and creates a lot of errors when renaming albums …
Sorry but this version just sucks.
@Klint: It doesn’t matter if it’s only once, that’s a very large problem for me as many of my albums do not have album artwork that is easily found. I listen to non-mainstream music (Classical and Eastern, specifically), and I remember dealing with iTunes automatically fetching my artwork: Not a single album was right. Not one.
Lots of players have the option to forbid the program to access the internet unless manually specified. This would be a GREAT time to implement a tickbox.
@Chancellor: sorry, just realized my post was not clear. If you install the addon ( http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/1786 ) or if you set the property to TRUE, no artwork will be fetched automatically anymore.
The one-time fetch I was talking about was the automatic one
Of course, you still have the possibility to fetch artwork manually.
And you have now 3 addons that can fetch artwork from 3 different places:
- Discogs, not yet ported to 1.4 though: http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/1516
- Amazon:http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/1425
- Gracenote (that one on windows only, I think it goes with the CD Rip add on)
@Klint: This addon is good to know. Thanks for the help
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Why isn’t this option included? I think that the option qualifies to be in the default preferences.
@ spk2629
Agree. However, I don’t get one thing however. Songbird’s upgrades are incremental, so 90% of the stuff stays the same. I now run a old Songbird (1.12) to sync my Nano, and a new Songbird (1.4.x) for the better skin. No, I don’t see why the Songbird team screws us users, who just like to keep syncing their old Nano 3g. No, I will never update my firmware, and no I don’t get it, why I cant install that otherwise perfectly fine i-pod addon with the latest Songbird.
By the way, I am gonna buy a Macintosh any day soon, because that’s the only sane thing to do folks. Yes, Jobs owns my ass because I like my 50$ buck Nano..
Kanyebird is farting into the microphone! awesome! heh.
farting into the microphone
Love the new theme, the splash screen is easily got rid of (:D), and searching is now speedy (yay! it was painfully slow before!). Overall, a nice update.
Is there any way to get the cd ripper to rip to mp3? (I know you guys can’t bundle the encoder without paying for it, but it’s easy to grab a LAME encoder online…)
I would just like to congratulate songbird on an excellent update. Over all it feels faster and more stable. I miss the player controls on the bottom though, and screw purple. The steel feather isn’t that bad i just want a dark aero glass looking theme (minus the purple). Those are my only complaints. Overall, I feel like this is one good step towards dethroning the almighty iTunes. Fyi: Had no problems with window seven except aero snap does not work (so basically, it works like it is on vista.) Again, congratulations.
I came looking for an alternative to sync my iPod, now not supported anymore plus the the bitchy reply of support team (“Preed”). I’m going back to Winamp!
Wow, what a little piece of shit!! Do yo speak german? alles klar, ich werde meinem ärger auf deutsch luft machen. ob es einer liest oder nicht, scheißegal, der schaden ist sowieso auf MEINER seite und kostet mich tage, um ihn zu beheben. zur sache: ich habe ca 50.000 titel in meiner sammlung. in ungefähr zehn jahren habe ich eine ordnerstruktur aufgebaut, in der ich alle meine titel wiederfinde. innerhalb kürzester zeit hat es songbird geschafft diese ordnerstruktur zu zerstören indem songbird die titel nicht nur in seine datenbank aufgenommen hat, sondern meine ordner gelöscht und die titel alphabetisch in ordner geordnet hat. D.h. alle titel sind noch vorhanden, aber in einer weise, wie songbird sich das vorstellt. ich darf nun alle titel wieder so sortieren wie ich das will. AAAARRRRHHHHG!!!!!!!!! hätte ich einen der programmierer vor der brust……..
The new theme is simply put, ugly as sin. The biggest problem? There’s no way to go back to the previous one… Which was a really neat, clean and professional theme design. And no, the one available for download it’s not the same thing.
Actually, there is a way to go back… I just removed version 1.4.x and reinstalled the previous one. And I don’t care how much better feature wise or bug free is the upcoming version. Unless they bring back a clean and professional looking theme, I’m not going forward.
That’s just my 2 cents.
(Btw, I’m a community member)
@csr. Actually.. Not sure what you mean by bitchy.. His correct. It broke somewhere between 1.2 and 1.4, and even after providing a procedure on Getsatisfaction to help isolate when the bug was introduced (which would make it easier to fix), the people who are complaining the most are unwilling to help at all. Whilst it may still have worked on linux, on Windows, my own ipod (an old ipod shuffle) even broke. In fact, the attitude towards trying to isolate the bug has been that their time is too valuable to help. In the ideal world where POTI had infinite resources, and infinite money, the iPod addon makes sense, but currently, actively bending over to support ipods actually is counterproductive towards dominating the market for POTI I’d imagine. Just as it is less profitable for Apple to open up the protocol.
You are of course welcome to find my procedure though on GS, run through it, and isolate the iPod bug. The longer it takes for someone to do so, the more work it will probably take to get the iPod addon working again.
@Ricardo. The old theme had many usability issues actually (it certainly wasn’t as reactive to the mouse pointer). I agree that some people may not like the colors used by the new theme, however, I actually prefer them, especially late at night. I also think it will blend better once video support is added
Someone has already ported Gonzo to 1.4.3 anyway (as a feather).
@Steve. You can compile your own copy of the Gstreamer lame mp3 encoder and use that.. Not sure how legal it would be without a license though.
Overall, Songbird is definitely getting better, and I think the main problem at the moment is lack of time (because there is still foundation to be added). Once all the major bits are in though, I’d imagine they’d be much more time for polish, and fixing the annoying little issues.