Songbird 1.1 is here

By Georges Auberger Georges Auberger Permalink

Tightening done

Almost a million people have given Songbird 1.0 a warm welcome. We thank you for that. We’ve listened to your feedback on Get Satisfaction, our blog and Bugzilla.
We want to keep bringing out the innovation you deserve. Here is your Songbird 1.1.

New Features

Album ArtOn demand Fetching of Album Artwork
Songbird can now fetch album artwork from the web at your command. Simply select or right-click a track and choose “Get Album Artwork”. You can also select your preferred source of artwork. By default, Songbird will retrieve album artwork from Last.fm but you can install other sources such as amazon.com via an add-on.

Watch FolderWatch Folders
You can choose to watch a folder hierarchy for changes and the content will auto-magically be imported in your library. If a file is removed from the watched folder, the corresponding track will be deleted from your Library.

SortingBetter Sorting
Library sorting supports unicode collation and better handling of leading definite and indefinite articles such as “The” and “a”.

Replay GainReplay gain support (normalization)
If a track’s metadata contains replay gain (including iTunes-specific) information, Songbird will adjust the playback gain appropriately.

Improved Media CoreImproved Media Core & Better gapless playback
We rewrote the low level media core component for Windows to improve playback performance and lower cpu usage. Also, if an mp3 encoder places metadata information to indicate the exact beginning and end of the audio, Songbird is able to read it and use it to skip padding data that does not contain audio, leading to perfect gapless playback.

Improved MTP SupportMTP Device Support
We fixed many bugs affecting MTP devices on Windows. We’ve also added the ability to synch authorized Windows Media DRM’ed content to your MTP device. To see if your MTP device is supported, or to report your findings, visit the MTP device page.

7digital Music Store7digital MP3 Store (Beta)
Buy high quality MP3s (up to 320kbps) from the 7digital store in Songbird. The 7digital store in Songbird uses your most recently played tracks to recommend albums to you. Plus, 7digital contributes a portion of every purchase back to Songbird’s development. Every song you buy supports your favorite artist AND our development. Woot! The UK store is fully stocked, but the US and other European stores are still continuing to populate a complete catalog of music.

Performance Enhancements

We’ve continued to make the application more stable and zippier in all sorts of ways. Amongst other things, you should notice a smaller memory footprint and decreased CPU usage.

We made some substantial gains this release:

  • Reduced memory use with a large library by 40%
  • Cut CPU usage during playback by half
  • Fixed playback memory leaks
  • Made library caching configurable
  • Added batching to the media importer, reducing memory use by 60%
  • Reduced Mac download size 45%
  • Fewer Crashes: We’ve worked hard to identify and fix ten of the most common crashes in Songbird.

For Developers

  • You can now invoke Songbird from a url. For instance,
    songbird:open?url=http%3A%2F%2Flast.fm

    will launch Songbird and open a new tab pointing to http://last.fm. For more information, review this article in our developer section.

What’s Next

Our goal is to continue to focus on building a world-class, open music player. Our next release will consist of continued focus on performance and stability gains, implementing additional audio features, and much more. Stay tuned to the blog to keep up to date, or if you like to live dangerously check out one of our nightly builds and see the progress for yourself!

We’re always interested in hearing your feedback so please comment below and file bugs and/or feature requests in Bugzilla.

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  1. Pino Mar 10, 2009 1:51 pm Permalink

    Great job. Why is it 1.1.1, not 1.1 or 1.1.1.1?

  2. ali Mar 10, 2009 2:27 pm Permalink

    @Pino: We had to move the final digit from .0 to .1 when we moved to alpha/beta nomenclature. We don’t have a fourth digit just yet. :)

  3. ACMiller Mar 10, 2009 2:27 pm Permalink

    Great work guys, this is looking great, what a media player this is turning out to be! Definitely running faster and using less memory on my linux system.
    Thanks for all the hard work, it’s much appreciated!

  4. Aus Mar 10, 2009 2:27 pm Permalink

    @Pino

    We’re already busy working on the 1.2 release (aka, trunk). However, if we were to uncover severe problems with the 1.1 release (aka, Songbird1.1 branch) we’d release an update which would then make the version increment on the Songbird1.1 branch to 1.1.2.

    We have to start at 1.1.1 because of the way versions work in Mozilla.

    Also, we don’t have to go as far as 1.1.1.1 because we don’t branch our code in such a way that it would make that useful. There is one hiccup there however because on Windows, versions are always x.x.x.x. So if you look at the version of the songbird.exe, it will read 1.1.1.0.

    In the end, it’s 1.1, until we have another release on the 1.1 branch ;)

  5. Kevin Mar 10, 2009 2:32 pm Permalink

    This is great!

  6. Antoine Turmel (GeekShadow) Mar 10, 2009 2:36 pm Permalink

    Congratulations !

  7. Isaac Mar 10, 2009 2:47 pm Permalink

    Will I lose my song ratings when I upgrade? Is there a way to back up my library in the case that something goes wrong?

  8. Noir Mar 10, 2009 2:52 pm Permalink

    Testing

  9. trent Mar 10, 2009 2:59 pm Permalink

    Loving the Songbird protocol! Now I’ve got a bookmarklet to open the current page I’m viewing in Songbird:

    javascript:document.location=”songbird:open?url=”+escape(document.location);

  10. ali Mar 10, 2009 3:04 pm Permalink

    @Isaac you won’t lose your ratings. If you want to back up your profile, it’s hiding somewhere on your machine in a directory called Profiles. Step 2 in this post will help you figure out where that directory is on your computer: http://blog.songbirdnest.com/2008/06/23/how-to-restore-your-old-bookmarks-in-06/

    Note that the directory is now named Songbird2 and not Songbird1.

  11. tylerstyle Mar 10, 2009 3:20 pm Permalink

    Awesome!!!!!!!!!
    I’ve personally waited for the watchfolders and am glad to see them back.
    Cheers, great work, guys and gals!

  12. Nick M Mar 10, 2009 3:24 pm Permalink

    Hooray!

  13. Sir_Sid Mar 10, 2009 3:29 pm Permalink

    Congrats on the release

  14. Christer Danmo Mar 10, 2009 3:34 pm Permalink

    I still got the same problem with option windows size and I can`t resize it :S (1.1.1 Build 1018). The weired thing is that it changes it shape everytime I open the option window but it`s always to small.
    It started in beta 3.

    I am using Windows XP SP2 with norwegian language both in windows and Songbird.

    http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15592

  15. Yadonashi Mar 10, 2009 3:38 pm Permalink

    Excellent!

  16. Andrew Luecke Mar 10, 2009 3:49 pm Permalink

    Excellent work guys.

    for a while there i saw 1.1.1b4 in the repos and was worried.

    I’d actually say the jump from 1.0 to 1.1 was nothing less then epic, and will definately get some attention. In fact, i’d say this release was bigger then the jump from 0.7 to 1.0. at the very least, we can finally say songbird is stable (1.0 had some weird bugs which caused it to crash, such as quickly changing tracks).

    btw, Roadmap needs updating…

  17. Nazgulled Mar 10, 2009 4:05 pm Permalink

    Excellent!

    Congrats on the new version, going to update right now cause I’m not much of a beta fan and this version addresses some important bugs to me.

    To bad the iPod support has not been improved has the MTP one, I’m really missing (like any other iPod user) some important features to ditch iTunes once and for all…

  18. yew Mar 10, 2009 4:42 pm Permalink

    Yay for Songbird =)

    i was just uninstalling 1.0 and looking for 1.1.3 for daily feather stuff and saw this lol :D

    good work people!

    first to download? =P

  19. Starke Mar 10, 2009 4:43 pm Permalink

    I love songbird! But I have a few complaints…With the update, a few things changed that I wish were back. First is that in each pane, I used to have the option of selecting any of my pane add-ons. Now it seems I have to select from a predetermined list. Maybe this will get fixed by the add-on people, dunno. I just figured I’d mention it. Second is that when I use the web-browser now, my library tab stays visible. I liked it when it disappeared until I went back. Any way I can do this? Thanks!

  20. boosh Mar 10, 2009 4:59 pm Permalink

    Thanks Songbird Team! You guys Rock!

    I am always telling someone how awesome Songbird is… and how it has SO MUCH potential behind it to be the most dominate media player out there because of all the hard work and dedication you guys put into it…

    Woot! Keep up the Great work!

  21. Jérôme Mar 10, 2009 5:17 pm Permalink

    Merci!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Merci beaucoup, c’est génial je test ça de suite ;)

    Thanks, I test now with my Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex ;)

    Thanks a lot!!!!

  22. Jérôme Mar 10, 2009 5:30 pm Permalink

    It’s working very good in Ubuntu! Thanks ;)
    Merci depuis la Martinique!
    Please, make a forum (and a french forum ;) !)

  23. Andy Mar 10, 2009 5:30 pm Permalink

    Great stuff guys, congratulations.

    Podcasts sorted out next, please!

  24. thierry Mar 10, 2009 5:34 pm Permalink

    great job guys. but where are my album art settings? i want my covers saved in the correspondent folders and NOT as by default embedded in the audio files’ metadata.

  25. Jérôme Mar 10, 2009 5:34 pm Permalink

    Yeah podcast ;)
    And RSS plugin… and finally video!

    Make it compatible at 100% for IPod, espacially IPhone (cover, app, lyrics,…) and I thinks a lot of people would put songbird ;)

  26. boosh Mar 10, 2009 6:29 pm Permalink

    Georges, I guess the bird was trying to take the screw out after all… That was a close one…

  27. atreiu Mar 10, 2009 6:31 pm Permalink

    @Starke:

    “First is that in each pane, I used to have the option of selecting any of my pane add-ons. Now it seems I have to select from a predetermined list. Maybe this will get fixed by the add-on people, dunno.”
    Exactly, leave a comment on the addon-page, then the add-on developer can add the display view to other panes, too.

    “Second is that when I use the web-browser now, my library tab stays visible. I liked it when it disappeared until I went back. Any way I can do this?”
    afaik, the behavior did not change since 1.0: If you are viewing a webpage, klick the “Hide Service-Pane”- Button on the bottom-left. Then the service pane stays hidden for _all_ webpages, but comes back if you switch to your library again.

  28. Alec Gorge Mar 10, 2009 7:22 pm Permalink

    Heh, now Songbird has a Vista Window shadow on it. Can’t tell whether that is good or bad.

    The length the time the song has played doesn’t move smoothly any more.

  29. Steven Mar 10, 2009 9:21 pm Permalink

    I am impressed. I even filed a bug for the first time which was actually very minor(the Seeqpod staying after uninstall one) but you guys responded a bunch of times and even repro’d it within like 3 days. Great job! 1.1 looks great and I’m only using 45% memory now instead of 51% usually on my vista machine. niiiice. Keep up the good work :D

  30. Daniel Raffel Mar 10, 2009 9:46 pm Permalink

    Congrats on the release, I’m downloading it now!

  31. Andy Mar 10, 2009 10:22 pm Permalink

    Starting songbird with ipod connected freezes it at Updating Library. Disconnecting it seems to have fixed it, but I was lucky to have guessed that. For awhile I was afraid I was going to be stuck with the non-fix of deleting my database…

  32. Markus Mar 10, 2009 10:36 pm Permalink

    Congrats to the release!

    And, yes, please make a official forum for users not connected to some 3rd party site …

  33. cwilliams Mar 10, 2009 10:41 pm Permalink

    Serious congrats guys. Songbird performance has improved to the point where it is now my primary player. My latest notes on performance:

    http://sites.google.com/site/songbirdwish/1-2-nightly-performance

    My wish list for Songbird:

    http://sites.google.com/site/songbirdwish/Home

  34. Sarah Mar 11, 2009 12:14 am Permalink

    Thank you guys, SongBird is really something.

    When I tried Amarok 2 I realized that Amarok is no more my media player and I found that SongBird is the mp3 player which I should look forward to it.

    I am wondering whether you have some schedule for 1.2 or not and whether a Ubuntu release is available or not.

    thanks

  35. Christer Danmo Mar 11, 2009 12:20 am Permalink

    @Sarah
    http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Roadmap

    If you go to http://getsongbird.com/download/ you will find a linux version of Songbird aswell.

  36. Tokyrn Mar 11, 2009 12:27 am Permalink

    Thank you for release !

    Why i want edit metadata is very loooonggg ?

    Have you awser ? thank (sorry my english is bad)

  37. Tokyrn Mar 11, 2009 12:46 am Permalink

    Update 1.0 to 1.1 it’s ok ?

    Because I am desinstalling and reinstalling songbird now it’s okay !

  38. saa Mar 11, 2009 2:35 am Permalink

    The way Mozilla works is
    1.1b3 => 1.1.0

  39. Klint Mar 11, 2009 2:38 am Permalink

    Thanks a lot for this release, you’ve done tremendous work. And starting from this one, I will be happy to spread Songbird to my friends (1.0 was lacking basic features such watching folders and performance was not there enough…). :)

  40. Ess Mar 11, 2009 4:02 am Permalink

    This was a great stable release I do have a few of wishes.

    Any chance you can bring back a feature from the earliest release, multiple watched folders, right now we can only watch one folder.

    Also for sorting by location in the Library view instead of the long string location an option to only display the folder name would be nice.

    OPML import and export and Podcasts, Podcasts, Podcasts, the only reason I still use Media Monkey/XMPlay on windows, and Gpodder/Amarok instead of Songbird, is the OPML support and Podcast support. I need these well implemented in a single package. Maybe you guys can fold the Gpodder backend into Songbird?

    http://gpodder.berlios.de/

  41. Ess Mar 11, 2009 4:24 am Permalink

    Where are the comments I just posted, and why were my suggestions deleted?

  42. Chris Mar 11, 2009 4:57 am Permalink

    Runs beautifully here (damn my proprietary iPhone though)

    Any updates to the Roadmap to report? It only goes up to the next release and some of the unscheduled features are already in 1.1 or scheduled for 1.2.

    (Extremely) minor point, but I’d like to see a splash of colour in the default theme – maybe just maybe colouring in the icons and headings in the service pane. Can you inherit the OS’s highlight colour without doing a full ‘plucked’ feather?

  43. Matthew Wilcoxson Mar 11, 2009 5:28 am Permalink

    Tis a beautiful thing!

    Watch folders work brilliantly!

  44. Jigar Shah Mar 11, 2009 6:00 am Permalink

    Great Job guys..!! 1.1.2 with FC10 compatibility ? :)

  45. ich Mar 11, 2009 6:55 am Permalink

    Great work but shoutcast is not working at all. When I click on the button I’m waiting nearly 2 minutes for the list of radiostations. However, on my other computer shoutcast works without problems! I don’t know why. Is it possible that there are problems with the firewall?
    So, I use Songbird 1.1, Windows Vista, Kaspersky CBE, shoutcast 0.7.2.1018

    thanks for your help

  46. Yannick Mar 11, 2009 7:02 am Permalink

    Best player on linux ! Thanks a lot !
    It seems that the “watch folder” doesn’t work. I copy some files in the folder and they are not added on songbird, even after a reboot of songbird..

  47. Kejlsn Mar 11, 2009 7:05 am Permalink

    Great job guys!

    The problem is that the watch folder feature doesn’t work for me. I added my music folder in the watch folder option, and when I add new songs to that folder, a popup shows up in SB for a millesecond and then disapears, I can’t see what the text in the popup says. When I then look in my library, no new songs has been added. What should I do?

    The songbird still freeze and stops responding when I use the search function sometimes. I have around 40,000 songs in my library.

    Im runnign Sonbird on Vista Ultimate 64-bit, 2coreDuo and with 4gb of ram.

    Any ideas?

    Peace

  48. ich Mar 11, 2009 7:06 am Permalink

    Sorry for the spam
    but I solved my problem by clearing private data and ALL OF A SUDDEN
    I WORKS WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS!!!!

    thanks guys the singing bird is great!

  49. Yannick Mar 11, 2009 7:13 am Permalink

    It didn’t work for me. I’m running songbird on a laptop inspiron 6400, on ubuntu intrepid.

  50. cameron Mar 11, 2009 7:18 am Permalink

    Yahtzee!!!!!!

  51. cracker36 Mar 11, 2009 7:44 am Permalink

    i would love to see an amazon and/or musicbrainz tagger in this application, it can be done via plugins because some guy at mediamonkey forum has done it. this could be a killer add on.
    some other thing i would like to see is a format converter (bitrate, mp3 to wma etc…) and a way to auto organize and rename files.

    keep working and this will be the best media player in the world.

    P.S. love the fact this is cross platform :)

  52. Mersine Mar 11, 2009 7:57 am Permalink

    Wooh I’m excited about this! Just wondering, is there a shortcut delete function yet? I have a huge library and I’m always trimming it down.

  53. Victor J Kinzer Mar 11, 2009 8:00 am Permalink

    OMG BUSINESS MODEL!!!!

    The partnering on the music store, and you getting revenue ROCKS! It reminds me of the google deal with Firefox. I really hope it works out for you. As soon as I get home I’m installing 1.1, and I will make a point of shopping 7-Music as much as I can.

  54. Rick Stone Mar 11, 2009 8:06 am Permalink

    I’m having an issue with updates on Ubuntu and curious to know if anyone else has run into this. I’m running the .deb from unter-hund.com of 1.1.1 and “Check for Updates” is greyed out. Also, when checking for updates to my installed extensions, I just get the spinner and “Checking for Updates,” yet no check is ever performed.

    Any ideas? Seems to work fine on my MacBook, so I assume it’s an Ubuntu or Linux only issue?

    Thanks…and other than that, great release! Keep up the good work.

  55. Jakob Mar 11, 2009 8:08 am Permalink

    Yeay, love the new version. Much more responsive and the smaller memory footprint and less CPU usage just rock!

    Keep the good work up.

    Love Songbird!

    Cheers,
    Jakob

  56. Katana346 Mar 11, 2009 8:29 am Permalink

    Congrats! Now we just need to see the Add-on developers working to bring them up-to-date.Missing my feathers…

    Also, as Alec Gorge said, the elapsed time bar “jumps” now, instead of the smooth flow it had before.

    Overall, I’d say the new release is impressive though!

  57. Jesse Mar 11, 2009 9:10 am Permalink

    I’m with thierry – where are the album art settings? The features list mentions the ability to change from last.fm to amazon, etc — I can’t find any options to tweak this.

    Otherwise, AWESOME release!!

  58. Jesse Mar 11, 2009 9:30 am Permalink

    Update re: album art issue:

    Looks like there’s a fetcher add-on called Amazon Fetcher to enable that function. Still don’t see a way to configure settings though.

  59. aus Mar 11, 2009 9:39 am Permalink

    @Kejlsn

    The search randomly freezing for a few seconds is a known issue that we’re working on already.

    @Jesse

    Album Art config options are coming…

  60. Jordan Mar 11, 2009 9:53 am Permalink

    Why can’t I drag and drop files from windows explorer to a playlist?

  61. dirkr Mar 11, 2009 9:54 am Permalink

    Love your Spinal Tap allusion

  62. Ess Mar 11, 2009 11:11 am Permalink

    One community request, can someone write an “album cover” importer plugin for podcasts? Maybe something that looks to one of the podcast aggregators, iTunes or Zune?

  63. Oliver Mar 11, 2009 11:28 am Permalink

    Unfortunately,

    the upgrade screwed my whole settings. All my playlists were deleted but all the songs came up in the add-on “now playing” playlist panel. Not with the names, though, but with randon numbers. Adding new songs to a playlist didn´t show the title,artist or album name of the song but I could play that song.
    Uninstalled Songbird, reinstalled – nothing. So I had to delete my profile and everything. Now it´s working fine.
    I am using XP SP3 and had the 1.0 version installed before.

  64. Lee Mar 11, 2009 12:09 pm Permalink

    Thanks guys!

    You rock!

    I’ll soon banish iTunes forever!! ha ha ha ha haaaaaa

  65. Jérôme Mar 11, 2009 12:27 pm Permalink

    C’est trop lent quand je fais des recherches dans ma bibliothèque sous Linux…

  66. Sarah Mar 11, 2009 12:34 pm Permalink

    I want to suggest two features
    - drag and drop files from nautilus or other file managers to a playlist
    - minimize to tray. this one is really required.

    thank you for your good release. Songbird rocks.

  67. Phil Dawson Mar 11, 2009 1:17 pm Permalink

    Anybody else getting a werid miniskip after pausing and playing a song? Looks like the play bar has a delay in stopping and moves forward just a lil. Might just report that. Seems like an obvious bug to me.

  68. JC Mar 11, 2009 2:11 pm Permalink

    I’m getting the same error with Shoutcast as ich. Pressing the Shoutcast button locks up the program. I’m on Windows XP.

    Also, in previous versions I could middle-click on a link in the left column, like a bookmark or the add-ons link, and it would open up in a new tab, but now middle-clicking those links does nothing.

  69. Sarah Mar 11, 2009 2:29 pm Permalink

    I faced two problems:

    1- When I try to use find updates to find and install updates for the extensions, it tooks many minutes with no result, it just shows that it is searching for updates?

    2-I used to use mini feather but unfortunately it never shows where I placed it previous time. it shows almost in upper left section of screen.

    I am using Ubuntu 8.10.

    Thanks

  70. Jérôme Mar 11, 2009 2:47 pm Permalink

    I Have the same problem than Sarah, and I use Ubuntu 8.10 too ;)
    And please… Where is FoxTab Add-On???

  71. regoat Mar 11, 2009 3:10 pm Permalink

    Jesus, Equalizer, unless you can wait on him. Is “Normalization” or “Watch Folders” was so terribly important ?!!!! Equalizer should already be in version 1.0. Already tested the program and whether or not I do not like it but without Equalizer is lost to me, Winamp rulez – Equalizer. It was awfully hard to do?

  72. Mark Mar 11, 2009 3:13 pm Permalink

    I’m giving Songbird another shot, but is there still no ability to support FoxyTunes?
    This is a significant factor in my decision as the other features different from iTunes I don’t really use.

  73. Ronald Mar 11, 2009 3:44 pm Permalink

    It’s a great release. Except that one feature I have been looking for since version 0.5 still not there yet.. Playlist folder, which is extremely useful for me as I have more than 100 playlists and all organized in different folders, which is very messy on Songbird since it doesnt have they feature yet..

    I wonder will the feature be in the scheduled roadmap anytime soon?

  74. Martin Mar 11, 2009 3:50 pm Permalink
  75. ghos Mar 11, 2009 5:42 pm Permalink

    I was hoping for good things with Songbird 1.1, however I’m disappointed in it. I like many of the features but the album artwork lookup is awful. I had painstakingly gone through my library and got all the correct artwork since Songbird kept thinking everything titled “greatest hits” was by the same artist. However not only does it still think that way, but it didn’t even find all the artwork I had added before.
    Winamp still sees that artwork but Songbird doesn’t load it, nor does the fetcher find them. I tried the Amazon fetcher but I can’t tell if its active since there are no settings to tell it to use it, I am guessing it uses it if installed but it appeared to make little difference to the artwork.
    Some of the artwork was changed without asking me, which is really dumb.
    Poor quality testing on that part of it.

    I keep hoping Songbird will be the player I want it to be and it just can’t seem to get there.

  76. Steven Mar 11, 2009 7:22 pm Permalink

    Oh, one note. I installed 1.1.b1 before this and updated up through the other betas and then installed 1.1.1 through songbird’s update feature. When this is done, the application in windows programs still shows as 1.1.b1. Just thought I’d mention that!

  77. Andrew Luecke Mar 11, 2009 11:18 pm Permalink

    @ess, Comments are moderated.. So if you refresh, they sometimes appear to disappear.. Nobody deleted them though, they just haven’t been approved yet! (its probably just to keep spammers out).

    @thiery, any reason why? Imho, putting the album art in the tag is the correct way, because it means files can be moved around, etc.

    @Kejlsn. I’ve been running it on vista fine. Firstly, some filesystems and such don’t support watch folders (because Songbird uses the proper API to do it, not the random scanning method). However, if you are having problems, try wiping your profile. Sometimes it fixes things, sometimes it doesn’t. Make sure u aren’t using a samba drive for instance on a uni network (SMB/CD drives don’t support watched folders properly).

    Also, double check your version and ensure you ARE using the latest version. Much older versions don’t seem to uninstall automatically (because the nightlies install to songbird-BLEH, not songbird).

    Generally though, this is because of a slightly dodgy profile though. Maybe move it to the side, and if recreating fixes it, upload the profile to bugzilla with details, as it may help the developers.

    @Rick stone, Might be because your current user doesn’t have permission to modify songbird files possibly (just a guess). Sudo songbird, and see if it works. I don’t really bother with linux anymore though.

    @jesse.. You might be looking for the button on the Now selected/Now playing bar. If you click the folder symbol, you can change that. Not sure if you can use LastFM to permanently store your album art though honestly. This methods fetch the album art in realtime off the internet, but not sure if it is stored..

    @Phil, I noticed that after they added the gapless playback.. Report it as a bug, but it probably has been before.

    @Regoat. Actually, most people find Watch folders more important. Especially on large libraries, and normalisation is very simple. I honestly have never seen anyone use EQ (many speakers have good enough EQ anyway). So I think Songbird made the right choice… However, EQ is due in about 2 months anyway.

    @Mark, post a suggestion at foxytunes about that. There is no reason why they can not support songbird, just just need to code support.

    @Ronald, Its been posted now. http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15655

    @ghos, You must remember that Songbird is still early days actually. In fact, in some areas (like importing iTunes playlist), I noticed winamp is playing catchup. And since the release of 1.0, songbird development has started accellerating actually. I agree that the album artwork function isn’t perfect yet, but it will most likely be flawless by 1.2 (which is only 2 months away). Also, the guys at songbird seem to take suggestions pretty well, so you will find that they will most likely listen if you post a suggestion early enough in the cycle.

    There used to be an extension to help with artwork, not sure where it went though (but might return again eventually)

    @steven.
    I noticed that too…

  78. Mark Davis Mar 12, 2009 12:27 am Permalink

    For the love of god: why? Why still the hard coded handling of articles? Why is there no support for *SORTORDER tags like ALBUMSORTORDER, ARTISTSORTORDER and so on? Half of my music collection is tagged with Kanji and Kana and has corresponding *SORTORDER tags. Only iTunes and foobar2000 let me use these. And the use of *SORTORDER tags would also make all worries about definite and indefinite articles go away.

  79. Abnum Mar 12, 2009 4:00 am Permalink

    Memory use :
    Songbird : 425.316Ko
    iTunes : 101.152Ko

    WTF ?

    But the most important point for me is : songbird doesn’t keep music folder organized like iTunes does.

    As long as this feature ain’t included there is no way I use Songbird and I think we’re a lot to think the same.

    And I don’t need a browser, thanks.

    Do the right things and you’ll kill iTunes.

  80. Martijn Mar 12, 2009 6:39 am Permalink

    Very Nice!

    I however would like to see the following in Songbird.
    1. Album art fetching from different sources (user configurable/selectable)
    2. An option to choose between embedding the album art in the mp3 or a user configurable filename (folder.jpg, front.jpg, folder.jpg, albumname.jpg) within a configurable location such as album folder or one generic thumbnail folder.
    4. Track changes and add an undo button.
    5. Mp3 embedded album art stripper (multiple files).
    6. id3-tag converter to various formats id3v1, id3v2.1, id3v2.2, id3v2.3, id3v2.4.
    7. id3-tag merger: If id3v2-tag does not exist then copy from id3v1-tag and if id3v1-tag does not exist then copy from id3v2-tag
    8. Songbird is a bit slow on user interaction. It feels heavy.
    What can be done to improve speed?

    Songbird has great potential, great work so far.
    I will be looking forward to future versions.

  81. sili Mar 12, 2009 6:39 am Permalink

    Finally Watch Folders again :)

    Good release, I’m really happy with it, thank you.

  82. Geoffrey Plauche Mar 12, 2009 6:54 am Permalink

    Rick Stone: “I’m having an issue with updates on Ubuntu and curious to know if anyone else has run into this. I’m running the .deb from unter-hund.com of 1.1.1 and “Check for Updates” is greyed out. Also, when checking for updates to my installed extensions, I just get the spinner and “Checking for Updates,” yet no check is ever performed.”

    I’m having the same problem on Ubuntu. Otherwise, my Songbird 1.1.1 installation is working great.

  83. forest Mar 12, 2009 7:04 am Permalink

    Great release! Thank you all for all your hard work!

    Also, one question. I noticed that CD Burn/Rip were removed form the Isan page on the wiki: http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/Releases/isan

    Does this mean that Isan will not be adding CD burn/rip support as originally planned??

  84. Jacob Mar 12, 2009 7:43 am Permalink

    I really want to be able to use this but it just doesn’t work the way I need it to. I sort my library by using ‘album by year’ in itunes, it keeps the artists in alphabetical order with the earliest album listed first. I’m not sure if there is the option to do this in songbird but if there is, it isnt very obvious. It also screwed up my ipod, when I plugged my ipod in it displayed 39 tracks in songbird, not the 8000 it should be. Then when i ejected my ipod and used it with itunes, over 3000 tracks had been taken off.

    Im using windows XP media center SP3, 120gb ipod version 2.0.1.

  85. Yannick Mar 12, 2009 10:36 am Permalink

    Please add the feature “keep music folder organized” ! The player lags when i search files. It also needs more stability. Very cloth to the perfect player ! Great job.

  86. Boris Mar 12, 2009 11:27 am Permalink

    @Abnum
    Are you on Windows?
    I can see the memory usage on my XP in about 73.000-95.000kB
    What exactly you’re doing to get it so high?

    About File organization…that’s on a roadmap for the next release.
    Can not assure it’s going to be exactly what iTunes does, shouldn’t we do better than that?

    Having the borsewr capabilities is a great idea, I think.
    Even if you only use to find the media(which can be downloaded in Songbird on one click). I’m sure there are much more people that wouldn’t mind having a browser intagrated in a player(or player intagrated in a browser).

    We do the right thing by following our vision and listening on people’s suggestion to make SB better,
    Thanks.

  87. Corey Mar 12, 2009 11:39 am Permalink

    Geoffrey Plauche:

    “Rick Stone: “I’m having an issue with updates on Ubuntu and curious to know if anyone else has run into this. I’m running the .deb from unter-hund.com of 1.1.1 and “Check for Updates” is greyed out. Also, when checking for updates to my installed extensions, I just get the spinner and “Checking for Updates,” yet no check is ever performed.”

    I’m having the same problem on Ubuntu. Otherwise, my Songbird 1.1.1 installation is working great.”

    Same exact thing here, it says checking for updates forever.

  88. Pindulet Mar 12, 2009 2:30 pm Permalink

    Podcast support please…

  89. bruno Mar 12, 2009 2:38 pm Permalink

    It’s so nice to know one more milestone was achieved. Thanks guys and keep rocking! And I am wating for the equalizer (next version) to definitively adopt SB as my default audio player

  90. deOmega Mar 12, 2009 3:21 pm Permalink

    I personally think that there are some things to keep in mind when deciding to use Songbird:

    After you have installed songbird and then have to manually go and fetch more addons, any issue from those are likely unrelated to the core Songbird product, and folks should consider talking with the respective add-on’s author.

    IMO, this product is relatively young and still a work in progress, which I think by the time we get to ISAN may satisfy significantly more folks. But because of the demands we put on this program in terms of expectations, it will always be a work in progress… that is a good thing.

    If one does not want a browser, just don’t use the built-in browser. If one does not want a media player, well (haha)… maybe use Firefox. But there is definitely a reason to have the browser within the app. otherwise that locks out a huge part of the program’s attractiveness. Heck, a primary example is the ease of getting addons for the application, if one browses them through the built-in browser. Imo, it is worth it just for that alone. It is not like the browser gets in the way of the player… unless you are browsing, in which case there is a compromise.

    @Martijn
    Nice post!!!

  91. maurizio Mar 12, 2009 3:31 pm Permalink

    Fantastic! Great job! :)

  92. Matthew Mar 12, 2009 4:10 pm Permalink

    I am wondering why you decided to get rid of Skreemr? If its not going to be included by default, can you at least make it an add-on? Other music search services, such as iMeem, Last.Fm, Deezer, and Songza should be included as well.

    Also, are there any plans to make the bookmarks appear in folders, in a bookmark toolbar along the top like in Firefox?

    Additionally, I experienced an issue earlier today where clicking a song by one artist would not play, and/or i would click the title for one song, and it was playing another song, although it displayed the 1st song was playing

    The website icons for some sites do not work, such as last.fm, grooveshark, and craigslist. I don’t know if this is a bug for more.

    Speaking of Last.Fm and Grooveshark you should make compability for these better. Currently, “Loving” or “Banning” tracks in the player does nothing for my Last.Fm profile, and the last.fm radio has to play using the last.fm app. For grooveshark, the player has no integration with Songbird. Perhaps an add-on to integrate the queue for Grooveshark in the UI would be good

    Myspace music players need to integrate into this system.

    Any site that has a player, such as YouTube, or just music players should suggest you add an exception to allow them to pause your music when you open content

    A list of user-suggested music blogs and other things would be nice, as I’ve discovered so much new music browsing on my own, and I can’t even imagine how better it would get with that kind of feature

    The Deezer addon doesnt work either.

    To increase wide-spread usage and awareness integration with firefox addons, notifying developers of Firefox addons that they should make things for Songbird, and other ideas could all help to get things rolling

    I am not sure if Songbird copies new tracks from my watched folder into my itunes folder when it finds them, but it would be nice if it did this, and once done it cleaned out that song from the watched folder, so i have all my music in one place

    The songbird team also needs to notify Facebook their browser exists, so that Facebook Chat will work for this platform. It is currently recognized as Firefox 1.9, and the only way around it is to modify the about:config agent string to Firefox 3.0.4, which then disabled installing add-ons.

    I’ll keep posting in here as i find more info for your ears. Best of wishes!
    _Matthew

  93. Matthew Mar 12, 2009 4:12 pm Permalink

    oh just a few more thing…. dragging and dropping links into the toolbar to open them in a new tab does not work, and Songbird does not give me a choice to make it my default browser, to avoid links in adium [suggest integration] from opening in Firefox instead of Songbird, which is the only browser i’m using now.

    Also, firefox bookmarks should be import-able to work with the bookmark toolbar idea i already mentioned.

  94. Matthew Mar 12, 2009 4:13 pm Permalink

    Cool Iris/Pic Lens 1.9 is an add-on that needs to be brought to this browser

  95. PhoenixP3K Mar 12, 2009 4:17 pm Permalink

    This update is just what I needed! I’m now looking forward the May release.

    Keep on the great work!

  96. Caleb Jones Mar 12, 2009 4:38 pm Permalink

    Please tell me the “Watch Folders” feature won’t erase your entire collection whenever the removable drive/folder that it’s monitoring happens to be, well, removed. That kind of bug, which is quite common for audio apps like this to have, makes the feature almost worthless.

    I’ll try it out tonight to see.

    Also, do we have an equalizer yet?

  97. revatman Mar 12, 2009 5:10 pm Permalink

    okay, on the Mac 1.1 version, where am I supposed to grab to move the main songbird window around?

    no where i grab “grabs.”

  98. revatman Mar 12, 2009 5:51 pm Permalink

    I’m in filter pane view. I have my whole library showing. I type in “monster magnet”. I get that artist. click on the “monster magnet” artist in the artist column. click the “x” in the search pane. “monster magnet” is no longer selected in the filter pane.

  99. G Mar 12, 2009 9:21 pm Permalink

    So much for this thing… Can’t even scan my whole library. SIGSEV’s every time. Oh well — maybe have to wait for the 2.x series…

  100. ggben Mar 12, 2009 11:31 pm Permalink

    Updated to 1.1.1 with my ipod plugged-in. Now a dozens of my songs and playlists are deleted! The Local Library also seems to miss some songs!
    Thanks to God im only using it to play music from my ipod in the work.

  101. Schniggi Mar 13, 2009 3:41 am Permalink

    I love Songbird! But I’d even love it more if it would be available as portable APP. So please make Songbird portable!!!
    You’re doing a graet Job!

  102. kiepmad Mar 13, 2009 5:27 am Permalink

    integrate with windows manager please on linux. The 3 buttons are not enough to manage an app. :P

    otherwise it’s nice. :)

  103. Dim Mar 13, 2009 6:09 am Permalink

    I can’t agree with those who say that this is an awesome release.
    Running Ubuntu I experience the same problem as some people have reported above: add-ons cannot be updated.

    One more thing. I manually find the best artwork for each new good album. I put it as cover.jpg into the album’s folder. Songbird 1.0 worked with this approach really well. The new Songbird 1.1 doesn’t even want to see cover.jpg files in folders. All I can do is manually apply the JPG using Edit metadata, but what Songbird does in this case is embedding the JPG into each file within the album, which is just a waste of disk space.

    I love Songbird and one day hope to see it being the default media player in Ubuntu. But while the new release runs notably faster (one good thing!) other things make me think that the team has released it too early.

    And one more annoyance. No official installation .DEB file for Ubuntu once again!

  104. Don Mar 13, 2009 6:49 am Permalink

    I’m seriously impressed with v1.1.1. It installed as an upgrade without a hitch on my Ubuntu netbook and works like a dream. Really like the album art and media flow improvements but I’ve yet to look at it on my main workstation with ~5000 FLAC tracks but I’m sure it’ll do well.

    The 7Digital store integration is brilliant, one wish on that though: could we get more FLAC files as an option from them. Using FLAC as a gold copy is worthwhile esp. as storage costs are falling.

    Keep up the great work.

  105. kartoffelsalat Mar 13, 2009 8:02 am Permalink

    “Geoffrey Plauche:

    “Rick Stone: “I’m having an issue with updates on Ubuntu and curious to know if anyone else has run into this. I’m running the .deb from unter-hund.com of 1.1.1 and “Check for Updates” is greyed out. Also, when checking for updates to my installed extensions, I just get the spinner and “Checking for Updates,” yet no check is ever performed.”

    I’m having the same problem on Ubuntu. Otherwise, my Songbird 1.1.1 installation is working great.”

    Same exact thing here, it says checking for updates forever.”

    same thing here, ubuntu 8.04

  106. aus Mar 13, 2009 10:12 am Permalink

    @G

    We’d appreciate a bug report if you have the time. It sounds like you probably have some tracks that are crashing the metadata importer.

  107. aus Mar 13, 2009 10:24 am Permalink

    @Dim

    You can enable looking for ‘cover.jpg, folder.jpg’ by enabling this preference: songbird.albumart.file.enabled in about:config.

  108. bruno Mar 13, 2009 11:04 am Permalink

    btw, also hoping for it to be the default audio player in ubuntu

  109. Yannick Mar 13, 2009 12:06 pm Permalink

    I noticed a problem. Many artists have been boycotted from the importation with the watch folder. The format of the boycotted files are .mp3 as the other files which have been imported correctly. How come ? Have you noticed the same bug ?

  110. bert Mar 13, 2009 1:04 pm Permalink

    songbird.albumart.file.enabled doesn’t help for all files. in the new version it displays albumart for the first tracks only and last.fm album arts that are 150×150 pixels 200 kb in size overrides my own 600×600 100kb folder.jpg files that are by far much better and it’s inrevertable even if i delete the aotumatic downloaded album arts in my Users\User\AppData\Local\Songbird2\Profiles\ etc.. folder (windows vista).
    setting songbird.albumart.lastfm.enabled to false doesn’t help. changing the priorities for lastfm, file and metadata albumarts doesn’t help. it keeps reloading the small sized albumarts when i re-add my music files in my library and keeps on adding the same low quality (and large in filesize) images in my hidden AppData folder.
    i’m afraid of even opening songbird at the moment fearing that it will replace every albumart i have. what am i doing wrong? what were the default settings for all preferences starting with “songbird.albumart” in version 1.0 ?

    i’d appreciate some help if anyone know a way to stop songbird from behaving like this :( i did not tamper with any settings in auto:config until i updated to version 1.1.

  111. David SF Mar 13, 2009 1:08 pm Permalink

    This player is a slam dunk once you include Amazon MP3 store support (possibly with affiliate revenue for songbird) and some UI when USB music players are inserted for syncing.

  112. Martin Mar 13, 2009 1:47 pm Permalink

    Got the same problem with the new release as Dim. When I ad new albums Songbird doesn’t see the cover.jpg file in the album folder. I tried to change the about:config so that songbird.albumart.file.enabled is set to true but it didn’t help.

    This is a big change in the way Songbird handles album art and I think looking for folder.jpg or cover.jpg should be the default setting.

    Otherwise I love the new release.

  113. Ishan Mar 13, 2009 2:07 pm Permalink

    Wow, I just lost about 20 gigs of my music off my ipod, just as I installed songbird and mounted my ipod on it…that isn’t coming back either!

  114. Ishan Mar 13, 2009 2:13 pm Permalink

    I had autosync off already, I’ve never used it on anything… I really don’t know why it went away, given that the first time I opened songbird it worked; after restarting songbird, it deleted 20 completely random (or so it seems – i’m going through to see what is lost now) gigs of my music.

  115. Ishan Mar 13, 2009 2:21 pm Permalink

    Actually, now I can see what happened — there are playlists on my ipod. If there was a song on any playlist, it was kept. However, say the song on a playlist came from an album, and wasn’t just an individual song — the remainder of that album (except that one song) was deleted. Unfortunately, I have no idea why this happened, it seems to be a software error. Most unfortunately, because it was on my playlist, it was stuff I was listening to, and was, in general, stuff I’d paid for. Too bad. Will probably never use this software again for my ipod. For better or worse, itunes – although a terrible program in many ways – still seems to be the best.

  116. Kevin Mar 13, 2009 3:27 pm Permalink

    Is the ability to auto-sort any music imported into Songbird on the slate for a future release? The watch folder ability is nice, but I’d like to see a very flexible option that allows Songbird to automatically rename and sort any files dropped into the program as per the users wishes. iTunes has the feature, but it’s not very fleshed out, and doesn’t allow for the user to change the format and do something like sort music of the same genre into separate folders.

    Keep up the good work!

  117. Lbie Mar 13, 2009 4:07 pm Permalink

    Whoah, this last release is just awesome for many points, particulary the fetcher :)
    Actually, i just have 2 little bugs :
    - I don’t why, when i’m listening a playlist, each time, at the end of a track, songbird automatically skip the next track to play the 3nd, whereas when i manually start the skipped track, he have no problems to play it. If i have 10 tracks in a playlist, he’ll only play 5 tracks :/
    - Songbird cuts the end of my songs, for about 2s whereas the song haven’t finisihed to play.

  118. Andrea Mar 13, 2009 4:46 pm Permalink

    great… still crappy podcast support :(
    no opml support, the bugged parser can’t import some feeds, impossible to set the podcasts id3 to Podcast…

    a modern mediaplayer without podcasts… sigh! :(

  119. blutderengel Mar 13, 2009 10:11 pm Permalink

    I like the watch folder capability, I’m glad that was added.

    I am having slight delays when scanning through a track. It seems that the player will start “playing”, or at least counting as if it is, at the location I scanned to in the track, but audio won’t come out until a few seconds later. This wasn’t an issue in v1.0

    Also, still having an occasional misrepresented song. The player displays the name of one song, but it plays a different one.

    Either way, still my favorite media player!

  120. Scott Mar 13, 2009 10:45 pm Permalink

    I have an interesting problem–

    Any videos that I’ve imported into Songbird and sync with my iPod show up on the iPod but will not play. They show a time of a few thousand minutes. However, they play fine on my computer and they also play on the head unit in my car (Kenwood Excelon DDX-712). They worked fine with beta3.

    Videos are encoded with Handbrake using H.264 and AAC. Any thoughts?

  121. Jeff Mar 14, 2009 4:32 am Permalink

    Several issue have arisen since we started using Songbird for editing MP3 tags
    in files used for broadcast, apparenetly because the program doesn’t ‘clean-up’
    MP3 tags:

    1 – Quite a few songs now have lines of gobbledy-gook at the end of the
    field which don’t manifest themselves until the playout software
    plays the song and uploads the info. The song then needs re-importing into
    ID3TagIT and re-editing, which fixes it.

    2 – Some files now have a ‘date’ issue, causing the playout software to refuse
    to
    open the song’s and throwing up the error “Date is less than
    minimum
    of 01/01/2000″.

    3 – A few weeks back, we had chaos caused by bizarre errors in both our playout
    and playlist creation software and I think corrupted MP3 tags from Songbird
    were causing a problem which manifested itself in a seemingly-unconnected way.
    The whole horrible mess started the day after we installed and edited in
    Songbird for the first time, and has gradually stopped happening as those files
    have been found and re-edited in ID3-TagIT. Nothing else has changed on the two
    machines which use these programs.

    I may be wrong in these assumptions, but it seems like “one coincidence too
    many”, to me. None of these problems existed prior to using Songbird.

    Hope that helps someone.

  122. nicolas rudloff Mar 14, 2009 5:52 am Permalink

    Great work, keep it going!!!!

  123. aus Mar 14, 2009 11:22 am Permalink

    @Mark Davis

    Oh for the love of god why are you saying oh for the love of god. It’s not that horrible that we don’t support those yet. And I emphasize _yet_. Sounding horrified about those tags not being used isn’t going to help anyone. Infact, it’s kind of annoying. Everyone has their feature that they wish Songbird had (believe me, I have my own list) and there are perfectly good ways to communicate that which don’t involve berating us. Thanks :)

    @Lbie

    That’s definitely strange. We haven’t experience this in house. Could you file a bug and provide more details? Maybe the format or song that it skips over is the problem? We could have issues decoding it and then just skip over it.

    Also, the 2 second ’skip’ you see at the end isn’t actually a skip. Songbird will play the rest of the song regardless. This is a side-effect of how gapless playback works. So, to re-iterate, the faceplate may change songs early, but the rest of the previous song will definitely play before the new song starts.

  124. aus Mar 14, 2009 11:24 am Permalink

    @Kevin

    It should already be possible with MTP devices to do what you are describing. iPod should also work (although, the iPod add-on is definitely buggy :( ). If you set your portable device to be in library sync mode, any new song or playlist added to your main library and any edits done to them will be reflected on the device.

  125. aus Mar 14, 2009 11:26 am Permalink

    @Jeff

    Thanks for filing that comment as a bug, we’ll try and look into it as soon as we can.

    @regoat

    It’s one thing to miss having an EQ but I don’t appreciate the rest of your comment. Take your childish attitude elsewhere.

  126. Jérôme Mar 14, 2009 12:06 pm Permalink

    I would like see video on Songbird!

  127. Jérôme Mar 14, 2009 1:36 pm Permalink

    Con you do like Itunes, see the number of musics i have and HOW MUCH Go IT TAKE???

  128. Jérôme Mar 14, 2009 1:41 pm Permalink

    The “Checking for updates” it’s not working! I’m on Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex.

  129. Aus Mar 14, 2009 4:27 pm Permalink

    @Jérôme

    Yes, we’d like to display the total time and total size on disk for the library and the playlists.

    The checking for updates issue is known and will be fixed in the next release, you can track progress of this issue by looking at bug 15589 on our bug management tool :)

  130. Logan Mar 14, 2009 8:05 pm Permalink

    I am super stoked for a new Songbird release (I swear I was one of the first people in the know about it when it was being developed ;) ) but when I try and start it up on my mac it half bounces and then crashes :(

    if anyone could help me out I’d be grateful. I meet all the requirements and previous versions ran well, so I don’t know what the problem could be!

    Thanks!

  131. raul Mar 14, 2009 8:29 pm Permalink

    On demand Fetching of Album Artwork

    1. so will this fetch album artwork appear in my ipod when i synched?
    2. why is the gui like itunes? or is itunes copying songbird?

  132. Andrew Luecke Mar 14, 2009 9:59 pm Permalink

    @Raul I dont think album art syncing works on ipods because of all the Apple encryption rubbish (I might be wrong)

    Also, I highly doubt iTunes invented that layout. There honestly aren’t many ways to lay music out efficiently. Its just a natural evolution. Similar to how multi-touch screens was an obvious evolution of normal touch pads.

    When multitouch displays become common place, and the next gen of OS’s get released, I’m sure that media players GUI will reflect that.

  133. Rafael Mar 14, 2009 10:40 pm Permalink

    Please, can someone teach the bird the correct order of the letters? It’s terrible that THE Beatles is in the letter B. Come on! The name of the band is THE Beatles and not just Beatles. And the spanish and portuguese articles are also not taken into account when sorting. It’s like they don’t exist. It is horrible! There is a brazilian band called Los Hermanos. I know and many brazilians know that “Los” is a spanish article but I can tell you that nobody here would ever think of searching for the band in the letter H. Nobody would know which band is “Hermanos” becasuse the name of the band is LOS Hermanos. And by the way many brazilians don’t speak english and would not know that “the” is an english article.
    And it doesn’t happens only when sorting the list by artist. If I sort the list by songs… the song “The more you ignore me the closer i get” is in the letter “M”. What? What does “More you ingore me the closer i get” means? It means nothing without the THE.
    Please, at least tell me that there is a way to tell the bird do sort the right way because I couldn’t find one.

  134. Christer Danmo Mar 15, 2009 2:02 am Permalink

    @Ishan
    I have used Songbird in about one year now and synced both Apple Ipod classic and Ipod Nano 3d. gen. I`ve never ever experienced what you write here. Not even close to it.
    What I have experienced is auto. sync before I understood I could turn it off.

  135. Mark Mar 15, 2009 2:05 am Permalink

    Hello! I loved this player and I did use it for a while back in 1.0. However, when I went back to iTunes to listen to music there, a chunk of music had lost nearly ALL of its metadata. Thankfully it wasn’t all of my music that got affected (and I was able to get all of the metadata back, albeit it took a couple of hours). However, after that experience, I removed Songbird immediately. I’m not sure why this happened at all, especially when I use other players (MediaMonkey, WinAMP, foobar2000, Windows Media Player, MusicBee), and that NEVER happened.

  136. Martin Mar 15, 2009 2:08 am Permalink

    There have been a couple of questions about album art but I haven’t seen any solutions yet. I’ve experienced the same as bert and dim: Songbird only displays the folder/cover jpg album art for the first track of the album. If You manually ad using edit meta data Songbird embeds the picture in each song of the album. That takes up to much space and makes it harder changing a cover.

    So my qusition is: Is it a known bug that Songbird only displays cover/folder jpg for the first song on the album?

    BTW I like my Beatles under B:)

  137. Florian Mar 15, 2009 5:53 am Permalink

    I updated to 1.1.1 and songbird crashes every time when it starts “Rebuilding library sorting data” on win and mac. I unstalled the programme and reinstalled it and still the same problem.

  138. Lubi Mar 15, 2009 7:30 am Permalink

    Super!

  139. Mark Davis Mar 15, 2009 8:07 am Permalink

    @aus

    Yeah, right, because being sensitive will help. Maybe you want to check the post by Rafael for another very obvious reason why hard coded handling of articles is a sub-par solution that doesn’t solve a thing. Why I wrote “for the love of god”? Because countless other players before Songbird did it wrong and still do it wrong. Yet you were more than happy to incorporate such an annoying “feature” that is terribly flawed by design.

  140. merlwiz79 Mar 15, 2009 1:52 pm Permalink

    I create the package for Linux Mint and don’t have the problem with the add-ons not updating.
    I’m running Linux Mint 6(Ubuntu intrepid based) and it runs fine for me.
    I really don’t use it much, I just create a package for our users.
    It’s in our Community Repo http://packages.linuxmint.com/#6community
    I’ll be moved to import later.
    I haven’t created the package for Linux Mint 5(Ubutnu Hardy), yet.

  141. aus Mar 15, 2009 1:59 pm Permalink

    @Mark

    That’s pretty odd and I wouldn’t expect that problem to be related to Songbird. Did you edit any metadata in Songbird for those files? Did you use the iTunes Library Importer to import your library? I can’t say that we’ve ever ran into issue like that while using files in Songbird (including editing metadata) and then using the in iTunes. It would be really helpful if you filed a bug at bugzilla.songbirdnest.com.

    @Mark Davis

    Your sensitive comment is noted.

  142. Mark Mar 15, 2009 2:21 pm Permalink

    When I did uninstall Songbird, I left the reason for me uninstalling it during that process. Also, I do remember using the Lyrics add-on to add lyrics to all of my songs. Perhaps that’s the cause?

  143. aus Mar 15, 2009 2:56 pm Permalink

    @Mark

    Hmmm, it’s possible that an add-on could’ve been causing that issue, although, i’m uncertain if lyrics master will cause Songbird to try and write out the lyrics in the metadata of the file. If Songbird were trying to write back the lyrics set by lyrics master that could potentially cause some problems if we write the tag out improperly. If you think of any extra information that may help us in the meantime, let us know :)

  144. Mark Mar 15, 2009 6:53 pm Permalink

    Hmmm, I think that is it. Well, I was playing a few songs in Songbird, but I played others and nothing happened. I’ll assume it was the add-on and not Songbird itself that caused the problem. Hopefully.

  145. Le Torbi Mar 16, 2009 2:00 am Permalink

    Great work! However, I don’t see anything about grouping compilations on your roadmap. This is definitely a “must have” feature of a media player for me and – accordingly to your bug-tracker and getstatisfaction – a lot of other people. So please, please, please try to implement compilation grouping into the next release…

  146. Rick Stone Mar 16, 2009 12:21 pm Permalink

    As Andrew Lueke mentioned, running Songbird as sudo on Linux DOES now give access to checking for program and add-on updates. However, this is not only ideal, I’m sure there is some sort of security risk with this behaviour.

    It would be great if someone from the Songbird team could comment on this.

  147. Aus Mar 16, 2009 1:40 pm Permalink

    @Rick Stone

    We already have a bug open here about the issue. It will be fixed in the next release.

  148. Antonio Mar 17, 2009 4:59 am Permalink

    Great release! Glad to see that metadata for shoutcast streams is updated with each song! Is this now one step closer to getting Shoutcast to scrobble?

    Also, on Vista Songbird’s a little slow to close. It takes about a second or two longer

  149. Yannick Mar 17, 2009 10:30 am Permalink

    Hi, there is something that is I miss a lot on songbird. On Itunes it is possible to extract a playlist on the desktop. We just have to select the title of the song we want to extract, right click on it, then extract to desktop. Then we can find on the desktop the mp3 files of every song we extracted. It is very useful when we want to put some files on a USB key. Is is possible to see this feature on songbird ??

    Thank you in advance.

  150. Ishan Mar 17, 2009 12:43 pm Permalink

    Again, I specifically had autosync turned off because I know from itunes that autosync causes problems. Anyway, if its a bug, its a bug; I don’t know, if everyone still thinks I had autosync on though I didn’t, then, that’s fine too, either way, I’m not about to try it again. Maybe with a smaller ipod where I don’t mind losing my files.

  151. Om Mar 17, 2009 1:12 pm Permalink

    I noticed that after syncing my iPod with Songbird 1.1 all of my music is missing on the device. Guys, can you please look into this! Very unprofessional first time experience.

  152. Georges Auberger Mar 17, 2009 1:36 pm Permalink

    @Om

    Sorry to hear you were affected, it’s unfortunately a known issue http://blog.songbirdnest.com/2009/03/16/ipod-add-on-woes/ a this point.
    We promptly pulled the iPod addon and blacklisted it in the application as soon as we confirmed that it was causing problems. We’re investigating the root cause of this.

  153. Erik F. Mar 17, 2009 2:54 pm Permalink

    Well…. Congratulations. Songbird 1.1.1 manages to play multiple tracks, gapless, from an SMB network share, without a single dropout. That is VERY positive improvement over 1.0.

    It launches thousands of times faster than 1.0 as well! Deferring the “checking library for changes” into the background is a huge win for a 40K+ track database. Good job there.

    That solves two of my most important issues.

    The audio quality has taken a major hit, though. It sounds incredibly flat and tinny compared with iTunes on the same track data. (no equalizer settings, btw. I did doublecheck.) I don’t recall 1.0 sounding this bad, but I’d have to dig up an old copy to prove that.

    Oh, and the party shuffle plugin is .. ugh.

    It’s getting there, but it’s not there yet.

  154. Rick Stone Mar 17, 2009 6:06 pm Permalink

    Thanks for the info about the Ubuntu issues, though I have to say that if this will not be fixed until the next release (which I assume is more than 4 weeks away), then I won’t be using Songbird until then, as I imagine that many won’t. This is quite a shame as it seems that Songbird was just beginning to be usable on a day-to-day basis.

    This seems like kind of a major breakage to not fix right away.

  155. tbusters Mar 18, 2009 11:00 am Permalink

    mediaplayer =great
    songbird vs1= fantastic

    songbird vs1.1.1= epic fail this will cost member

    songbird 1.1 as unstable as possible even itunes works faster
    it stops working when its searching in the libary for songs or anything else

  156. Robert Mar 19, 2009 4:48 am Permalink

    Still does play shoutcast right, it worked up to 0.61, but hasn’t worked since. If you listen to online radio forget about songbird, it’s cr@p.

  157. kr1zmo Mar 19, 2009 6:29 pm Permalink

    - When viewing your library of music lets say you scroll to the G’s and stop then then switch to a playlist, or downloads on the left bar.

    - The next time you switch back to library, “Songbird” doesn’t remember your scroll position, or place you back in the G’s where you left off. This gets quite annoying having to scroll down your whole list every time.

    - I know there’s a search feature to find songs, but that can get quite annoying searching for every song.

  158. Le Torbi Mar 21, 2009 1:37 am Permalink

    I totally agree with kr1zmo. the library-browser loosing the selection is far beyond of just annoying!

  159. Carl Parisien Natick Mar 23, 2009 3:56 am Permalink

    Merci pour l’excellent article! Jean Carl Parisien Natick MA

  160. felena Mar 27, 2009 4:37 pm Permalink

    why the “exe” file has another icon and not the fartin’ bird?

  161. Madis Apr 1, 2009 1:56 pm Permalink

    In my experience, Songbird is the only music player, that really almost satisfies me (Now Playing Plugin is very important too).

    Is a bit slow and has some features I would prefere not to use, but fortunately these can be disabled (album art, etc).

    I have almost 6000 tracks, so scrolling up/down is kind of slow.

  162. Madis Apr 1, 2009 1:58 pm Permalink

    Actually, whole OS is slow atm because of the gpu drivers, so ignore that scrolling thing.

  163. Markus Apr 1, 2009 4:52 pm Permalink

    see my post on the Beta-Release:

    We definitifely need a Rating-Sharing-Mechanism!

    regards
    markus

  164. tonyxx Apr 3, 2009 7:49 am Permalink

    I love Songbird! But I’d even love it more if it would be available as portable APP. So please make Songbird portable!!!
    You’re doing a graet Job!
    +1

  165. Robert Apr 5, 2009 1:59 pm Permalink

    I have the same issue as Florian – I updated 1.0 to 1.1.1 and upon starting the new version for the first time, the program stalls when updating the library. Uninstalling, then re-installing results in the same outcome. I’m running WinXP and more than meet the sys requirements.

  166. Lukas Apr 7, 2009 8:26 am Permalink

    Great work here!
    But please include “compilations” (like in itunes) in your next release!
    I have many electronic music compilations and navigating through them could be much easier with the tag… must-have!!11

    And the shoutcast support is far from perfect…

  167. MadsAG Apr 7, 2009 1:33 pm Permalink

    I’m sorry, but I can’t use this 1.1.1

    The Search lag bug is just too annoying, even with 13,5k numbers.

    I did enjoy 1.0 much more :( But I’ll ofcouse be using this awesome software when the bug is gone.

    Oh I see people write watch folders have come back, I was like, “uhm, I’m sure i’ve seen a watch folder option”, and I had been searching days trying to find it. Glad to see it back.

  168. rfgjfj Apr 14, 2009 6:58 pm Permalink

    see people write watch folders have come back, I was like, “uhm, I’m sure i’ve seen a watch folder option”, and I had been searching days trying to find it. Glad to see it back.

  169. Adam Apr 24, 2009 12:57 pm Permalink

    What a waste of time. Doesn’t play imported iTunes. What amateurish crap. FAIL.

  170. Chelsea Apr 30, 2009 7:54 am Permalink

    It would be really nice to be able to burn a playlist onto a cd. I don’t know why that isn’t available. It’s really nice to be able to make mix Cd’s and I’m not able to do that with Songbird. Is there ever going to be an upgrade for this?

  171. Steve Cena May 30, 2009 8:49 am Permalink

    I absolutely adore Songbird & have since version 1.0. There are two issues I have right now:

    -I can’t report bugs. I try to sign up, but I never get a confirmation email to register an account. I know its not really related to Songbird, but it flows into my next issue.
    -Shotcast has stopped working. I was running Mint 6 and Songbird 1.1.2 and it was working wonderfully. All of a sudden one day it just stopped and I get an error that says “This is probably a text file”. I figured ok, no problem. Mint 7 is out soon & I’ll be doing a full reinstall anyway. I did so. Voila, radios came back. For the first play only. Once I shut the system down & brought it back up exact same error. I have Songbird on Windows and it does not appear to occur there, just on Linux.

    You guys have an amazing player. You truly do :) I recommend it to anyone I can, but I so miss my Shoutcast stations!! Last.FM is a great addition and fills in for the time being, but its just not what I want.

  172. Nelson May 31, 2009 11:13 am Permalink

    Songbird is nice, I’ve been using happily nostly it but it seems to refuse to watch my mp3 folder. Having this feature is important to me so I’ll try Mediamonkey now or maybe I’ll have to (nausea) go back to iTunes.