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		<title>By: Songbird Blog Songbird 1 1 Beta 1 is Available for Testing &#124; bird baths</title>
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		<dc:creator>Songbird Blog Songbird 1 1 Beta 1 is Available for Testing &#124; bird baths</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Songbird Blog Songbird 1 1 Beta 1 is Available for Testing   Posted by root 1 minute ago (http://blog.songbirdnest.com)        One thing where did the skreemr powered songbirdnest homepage go it was kinda cool to have a something where amazon would offer a download of the songbird player with tight amazon music what kind of idiotic assnine comment is that songbird 1 2 beta 2 is a        Discuss&#160;  &#124;&#160; Bury &#124;&#160;    News &#124; Songbird Blog Songbird 1 1 Beta 1 is Available for Testing [...]</description>
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		<title>By: How to Manually Install Programs in Ubuntu · kbps</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] couple days ago Songbird 1.1 Beta 1 was released, and the Linux download package is just a .tar.gz file. What the hell am I supposed to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Markus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Markus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem about _NOT_ sharing ratings is as following:

I use a Mac and a Windows PC and want to play the music from the windows-pc on my mac.

Windows: foobar2000
Mac: Songbird

So with nearly 100k Songs its USELESS to MANUALLY tranfer and sync all ratings.
The Hash changes even if I add another Genre, so who cares? I have my own Genres, my own Tags and I remove crappy Standard-Tags from iTunes (so I only have 3 kinds of each music style, not the full-fletched style-splitting i.e. minimal, dance, electro, house, and all kinds of it... its simply &quot;house&quot; or &quot;dance&quot; for me; Also is it a BIG advantage when DJing... 4 kinds of Music, nobody cares if its called house or dance, its the same kind)

So, my proposition:  Make it a OPTINAL feature to add &quot;Rating&quot; - Tag to the Files and sync it like any other ID3-Tag.
Imho BitTorrent also does share Tracks for a limited Time, so &quot;no longer shared&quot;-mp3 can be tagged with rating and so on.

I would recommend to make it a checkbox behind Rating whether to share it or not. MassTagging is possible, so I see no cons.

Ofc OFF by default, but there HAS TO BE such a feature, not everyone has a multi-user-system.  Or another proposition to fix this:  Set the (system/account-wiede) setting:  Ratings-Tag-Name, i.e.  rating_daddy, rating_son, rating_mom, everone can pick according to his preference, still optional. The best of both worlds.

Please consider this issue as important, not being able to share is a big con for me.

regards
markus

p.s.:  to the EQ-discussion:   ofc, the Sound-Engineer optimizes the Song for your special room with exactly your sound-system..... wow, wanna have one, too.   *BIG d&#039;oh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem about _NOT_ sharing ratings is as following:</p>
<p>I use a Mac and a Windows PC and want to play the music from the windows-pc on my mac.</p>
<p>Windows: foobar2000<br />
Mac: Songbird</p>
<p>So with nearly 100k Songs its USELESS to MANUALLY tranfer and sync all ratings.<br />
The Hash changes even if I add another Genre, so who cares? I have my own Genres, my own Tags and I remove crappy Standard-Tags from iTunes (so I only have 3 kinds of each music style, not the full-fletched style-splitting i.e. minimal, dance, electro, house, and all kinds of it&#8230; its simply &#8220;house&#8221; or &#8220;dance&#8221; for me; Also is it a BIG advantage when DJing&#8230; 4 kinds of Music, nobody cares if its called house or dance, its the same kind)</p>
<p>So, my proposition:  Make it a OPTINAL feature to add &#8220;Rating&#8221; &#8211; Tag to the Files and sync it like any other ID3-Tag.<br />
Imho BitTorrent also does share Tracks for a limited Time, so &#8220;no longer shared&#8221;-mp3 can be tagged with rating and so on.</p>
<p>I would recommend to make it a checkbox behind Rating whether to share it or not. MassTagging is possible, so I see no cons.</p>
<p>Ofc OFF by default, but there HAS TO BE such a feature, not everyone has a multi-user-system.  Or another proposition to fix this:  Set the (system/account-wiede) setting:  Ratings-Tag-Name, i.e.  rating_daddy, rating_son, rating_mom, everone can pick according to his preference, still optional. The best of both worlds.</p>
<p>Please consider this issue as important, not being able to share is a big con for me.</p>
<p>regards<br />
markus</p>
<p>p.s.:  to the EQ-discussion:   ofc, the Sound-Engineer optimizes the Song for your special room with exactly your sound-system&#8230;.. wow, wanna have one, too.   *BIG d&#8217;oh*</p>
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		<title>By: Wes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One idea is to create a field in the Songbird preferences where you can type a personal PIN code, so Songbird will only use the ratings saved with that specific PIN code after it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One idea is to create a field in the Songbird preferences where you can type a personal PIN code, so Songbird will only use the ratings saved with that specific PIN code after it.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Luecke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Luecke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 02:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@krzy, my point is that there might be a better way though.. Like being able to export the ratings, and import them later. I can see where u guys are coming from though. I guess a plugin to do this wouldn&#039;t be a bad thing, or an option in songbird.. However, it would have to be OFF by default. 

Because on any multi-user system, or home network where songs are shared, ratings would incorrect persist from other people, and then they will start complaining that they never set that rating (which is probably why no major music players seem to do it). Hence why it must be disabled by default!

To me, instead of rating files, i keep my albums split into 2 directories and use smart playlists to keep them seperate. One directory is music that sucks, the other is ftw music (which I use filters for to also split it into newer music).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@krzy, my point is that there might be a better way though.. Like being able to export the ratings, and import them later. I can see where u guys are coming from though. I guess a plugin to do this wouldn&#8217;t be a bad thing, or an option in songbird.. However, it would have to be OFF by default. </p>
<p>Because on any multi-user system, or home network where songs are shared, ratings would incorrect persist from other people, and then they will start complaining that they never set that rating (which is probably why no major music players seem to do it). Hence why it must be disabled by default!</p>
<p>To me, instead of rating files, i keep my albums split into 2 directories and use smart playlists to keep them seperate. One directory is music that sucks, the other is ftw music (which I use filters for to also split it into newer music).</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Luecke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Luecke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 01:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@krzy, my point is that there might be a better way though.. Like being able to export the ratings, and import them later. I can see where u guys are coming from. 

I guess a plugin to do this wouldn&#039;t be a bad thing, or an option in songbird.. 

However, it would have to be OFF by default. Because on any multi-user system, or home network where songs are shared, ratings would incorrect persist from other people, and then they will start complaining that they never set that rating (which is probably why no major music players seem to do it). 

My suggestion would be via addon though honestly.O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@krzy, my point is that there might be a better way though.. Like being able to export the ratings, and import them later. I can see where u guys are coming from. </p>
<p>I guess a plugin to do this wouldn&#8217;t be a bad thing, or an option in songbird.. </p>
<p>However, it would have to be OFF by default. Because on any multi-user system, or home network where songs are shared, ratings would incorrect persist from other people, and then they will start complaining that they never set that rating (which is probably why no major music players seem to do it). </p>
<p>My suggestion would be via addon though honestly.O</p>
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		<title>By: Krzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Andrew,

No matter how much brainstorming has taken place on Ubuntu forums, you have to accept the fact that someone may really want to do it. There may be someone out there who is not interested in sharing their legally bought music, hence may be interested in tagging the ratings. I feel exactly the same way as Dark Passenger. I don&#039;t want to lose all the ratings once I reinstall Songbird or decide to another organizer..

If anybody knows any way that I can tag the ratings, please drop the lines here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Andrew,</p>
<p>No matter how much brainstorming has taken place on Ubuntu forums, you have to accept the fact that someone may really want to do it. There may be someone out there who is not interested in sharing their legally bought music, hence may be interested in tagging the ratings. I feel exactly the same way as Dark Passenger. I don&#8217;t want to lose all the ratings once I reinstall Songbird or decide to another organizer..</p>
<p>If anybody knows any way that I can tag the ratings, please drop the lines here.</p>
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		<title>By: Teo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Leo  Feb 22, 2009 9:48 am

You should only be concerned about EQing if your mixing/mastering skills/taste are better than those of your records’ engineers/producers. I seriously doubt that is the case. But hey, if more people thought this way, who would buy all the super-horrible-philistine-bass stereos?
&quot;

- what kind of idiotic assnine comment is that??
The ability to &#039;sculpt&#039; your own music is as basic as can possibly be. Nearly ALL programs and devices have it.
Look back in time you halfwit - .most music players in early 90s HAD an Equalizer built-in...SoundJam, the precursor of iTunes, hello?

To release a music player in 2009 that doesn&#039;t have built-in Equalizer is BIZARRE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Leo  Feb 22, 2009 9:48 am</p>
<p>You should only be concerned about EQing if your mixing/mastering skills/taste are better than those of your records’ engineers/producers. I seriously doubt that is the case. But hey, if more people thought this way, who would buy all the super-horrible-philistine-bass stereos?<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>- what kind of idiotic assnine comment is that??<br />
The ability to &#8216;sculpt&#8217; your own music is as basic as can possibly be. Nearly ALL programs and devices have it.<br />
Look back in time you halfwit &#8211; .most music players in early 90s HAD an Equalizer built-in&#8230;SoundJam, the precursor of iTunes, hello?</p>
<p>To release a music player in 2009 that doesn&#8217;t have built-in Equalizer is BIZARRE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Passenger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dark Passenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Andrew. You are the first to tell me a logical reason other than &quot;iTunes doesn&#039;t do it&quot;. I agree. Music is shared. Not everyone will want the same ratings but will want the same (correct) info. My frustration is having as many songs as I do, and rating them for parties etc. then losing all of it when I reinstall Songbird, Windows, or move directories. See my frustrations? There must be a way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Andrew. You are the first to tell me a logical reason other than &#8220;iTunes doesn&#8217;t do it&#8221;. I agree. Music is shared. Not everyone will want the same ratings but will want the same (correct) info. My frustration is having as many songs as I do, and rating them for parties etc. then losing all of it when I reinstall Songbird, Windows, or move directories. See my frustrations? There must be a way.</p>
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		<title>By: Christer Danmo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christer Danmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 10:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be nice if the rating got transfred to the Ipod atleast, which it does in Itunes.

I agree about not saving the ratings in the id3 tag for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be nice if the rating got transfred to the Ipod atleast, which it does in Itunes.</p>
<p>I agree about not saving the ratings in the id3 tag for sure.</p>
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