Songbird 1.0 Release Candidate 2 is Available for Testing

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Songbird 1.0 RC2 is now available for download!

Here are the most noteworthy and complete features we’d like to call out in RC2 and get your feedback on:

  • Importing iTunes libraries will no longer trigger a hang.
  • Using the the Windows Media Playback and QuickTime Playback add-ons we’ve brought back the ability to play pre-authorized DRM media: WMA DRM on Windows; Fairplay on Windows and Mac.
  • mashTape has been updated and will no longer invoke Flash player security warnings.
  • We’ve adjusted the buffer size for streaming media but we’re still working on the final setting. If you think it’s too high you can adjust it by following these steps.
  • Video support has been temporarily removed from the application. Our move to GStreamer introduced some new video related bugs that couldn’t be addressed in time for this release. Since video has been an unsupported feature we decided that this was the prudent thing to do for now. You can absolutely count on us re-introducing video support in a future release down the road!
  • When viewing Album art at fullsize you can now easily close the window.
  • When clicking on a track in the library invoking inline editing of metadata is now less likely to appear when you weren’t looking for it.
  • We resolved a number of bugs that could crash the application (thanks for always submitting your crash reports. Your anonymous data really helps us track down issues!)

The RC2 release notes contain additional details about this build including a list of known issues.

As always, please file any issues, bugs, or crashes you find in Bugzilla so that we can address them before 1.0 final!

Bloggers & Press: This release is not our final 1.0 product and is not ready to be reviewed. Since we’re still landing code we suggest postponing any review of the Songbird Player until our Final 1.0 product is released. If you’re interested in reviewing the 1.0 build feel free to contact us at: press [at] songbirdnest [dot] com. We’ll be more than happy to give you access to it prior to launch. Thanks for the care and attention you’ve shown Songbird over the past year. :)
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  1. André Kl. Nov 14, 2008 9:49 am Permalink

    hello,

    first thanks for the new release, but I have the same problem as I had at the pre-version.
    ____________________________

    Everytime, when I want to star a song i get a popup:
    ———————————
    Mediacore Error
    Can’t connect fakesrc with decoder (error=80040200)
    ———————————

    I hope somebody can help me to solve the problem.
    Best regards,
    André

  2. Andrew Nov 14, 2008 9:49 am Permalink

    First!!! Looking great! Improved memory usage is a plus. Cant wait for the true 1.0 release.

  3. ali Nov 14, 2008 11:05 am Permalink

    @André Kl.: Sorry to hear that you’re still having problems. Thanks for hanging in there with us. Could you send an email to me — ali (at) songbirdnest (dot) com — and we’ll work on this some more? It’s tough to debug problems in blog comment threads. :)

  4. Nazgulled Nov 14, 2008 11:22 am Permalink

    I don’t understand how you are so clone to releasing 1.0 final and still have some weird bugs on important features like on RC1, the volume track bar didn’t work properly and never saved the real position. Now, on RC2, one track ends playing and the next one doesn’t start at all. This is a huge bug, I have to keep pressing “next” everytime a song ends playing.

    You should get this little but very important bugs fixed before doing anything else and most of all, before releasing 1.0 final.

  5. aus Nov 14, 2008 12:28 pm Permalink

    @Nazgulled

    I think you’re making some fairly wild assumptions here.

    First, you seem to assume that we’ve seen this problem and it’s been reported to us. That’s simply not the case.

    Second, you seem to assume that if we knew about this problem we wouldn’t fix it before a Final Release.

    I think the correct action on your part here would be to file a bug with steps to reproduce and as much information as you can give us (error console output, add-ons installed, what OS you’re on, etc). Don’t judge us before you’ve even tried to get the problem resolved.

  6. Noisette Nov 14, 2008 12:42 pm Permalink

    Good job!
    I think having removed the video support is a good decision, if it needs more work!

    Thanks.

  7. deOmega Nov 14, 2008 1:26 pm Permalink

    Dunno if it is a fluke or not, but I am no longer seeing the surge in memory on startup whether or not I am using mediaflow. Memory is at about 64 mb. Awesome.

    However, once I select a song, and it is playing, it goes as high as 127mb, then settles at about 86mb. Even after the song is stopped, it remains at 86mb. Sometimes when i select a new song, the memory actually goes down to about 76mb.

    Dunno what all this means to you guys, but , except to say barring startup, the memory usage can be is very volatile… I have even seen as high as 140’s.

    I would think that as many things as songbird is supposed to do, and the variation in addons, one has to leave room for such volatility?

    Windows: Vista 6.00 Build 6001 Service Pack 1
    CPU Type: Pentium
    CPU Level: 3 Model 2 Stepping 1
    Speed (approx): 2396.0 MHz
    # of CPUs: 2

  8. Aus Nov 14, 2008 1:49 pm Permalink

    @deOmega

    Add-ons can influence memory usage in significant ways it’s true. You could always try and disable all of your add-ons to see if it helps with memory usage spikes. There’s just too many factors at play though to give you a straight answer in the form of a blog comment :)

  9. Nazgulled Nov 14, 2008 2:32 pm Permalink

    I didn’t make any assumptions at all, you are the one who said that not me. Nor did I judge you guys at all. You are the ones making wrong assumptions on my intentions and on my words.

    The problem I reported didn’t exist on rc1. RC’s are supposed to be pretty stable versions, yet, a bug like that is introduced on RC2. The only thing I assumed is that everything or most things, specially basic stuff on a media player that is working on a previous RC version, will probably be working on next RC.

    I think that’s a pretty valid assumption. Why should I expect a bug like that at all? I know lots of things happen between fixing bugs and introducing new features, I’m a developer myself, I know sh*t can happen but it’s weird that a bug like that didn’t exist on RC1 and yet, it’s on RC2.

    Just that, I never intentend to critize, judge you or badmouthing your work or anything. I love songbird, I’ve been waiting for a long time for a Winamp replacement and Songbird is becoming the one for me. I had no reasons to be so critical and I didn’t, you just missunderstood my point.

    And I don’t understand why you talked to me like that… It’s like I offended you or something when I simply stated a simple problem and suggested for it to be fixed, I never intended to be harsh or anything and it really saddens me that you thought all that when my intentions were far from that…

  10. Aus Nov 14, 2008 2:46 pm Permalink

    @Nazgulled

    My apologies, I didn’t mean to sound that harsh. We’d love your help in trying to solve this problem as we can’t reproduce it ourselves in-house.

  11. jleger Nov 14, 2008 2:51 pm Permalink

    @Nazgulled

    If you could provide us with more details, Songbird QA will try to reproduce your issue.

    Writing up a bug in the bug system with details would help us a lot ;-)
    http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/. If you could review the Bug Template QA that we recently posted to help prompt all the info we need, that would be great. http://wiki.songbirdnest.com/QA/Process/Bugzilla/New_Bug_Template

    If you could please provide the following, that would give us a great start in the meantime.

    - Your operating system
    - Type of files your are playing (i.e. mp3 track A is playing and trying to go to .wav track B)
    - Where you imported your files from (itunes library, local drive, network drive)
    - Clean install of 1.0.0rc2 OR upgrade from another Songbird release. Did you install 1.0.0rc2 on top of 1.0.0rc1?
    - Does your problem happen at the end of every track? Or is it specific to two tracks.

    Thanks!

  12. Nazgulled Nov 14, 2008 2:57 pm Permalink

    I already had intentions in registering with bugzilla and reporting a few problems as making some suggestions but I currently don’t have the time for that right now.

    But I’ll do that later tonight, maybe in a couple of hours or maybe tomorrow, but I’ll do it.

  13. jleger Nov 14, 2008 3:03 pm Permalink

    @Nazgulled

    Thanks! I’ll keep an eye out for it. We can carry on the testing results and follow up in that bug.

  14. Steven Nov 14, 2008 4:15 pm Permalink

    Just a question, but are we keeping the icon? The headphones seem…. bland. Is the egg coming back for 1.0? Just wondering, doesn’t affect the performance of songbird. Thanks! :D

  15. deOmega Nov 14, 2008 4:17 pm Permalink

    @Aus
    OK, i disabled all the addons, and the baseline was say 55-62 mb. I then re-enabled them one by one, and no significant changes, until I got to Mashtape, which then brought the average to about 75…. which is understandable, seeing what mashtape does. However, seems like the culprit is Mediaflow. After that addon, it would zoom as high as mentioned earlier and really becomes unstable.
    Keep in mind that I have everything at default settings.
    Please remember also that these changes or spikes occur when playing a song. Merely starting up Songbird and letting it sit there, runs around 60mb… and stays stable.

  16. Daniel Raffel Nov 14, 2008 4:53 pm Permalink

    @Steven
    Based on user feedback we’re working on alternate options. Look for something in the near future. :)

  17. deOmega Nov 14, 2008 4:56 pm Permalink

    I also support the modification of the Icon.

    I filed it here:

    http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13343

  18. stevel Nov 14, 2008 5:10 pm Permalink

    @deOmega, Yeah, mashTape will definitely raise the CPU and memory resources in use. The constant animation of the photo stream will typically raise CPU, and loading in all the images and Flash videos will really raise the memory and CPU usage as well. It’s the price we pay for cool features ;-)

  19. Robin Nov 14, 2008 7:22 pm Permalink

    I noticed that 1.0 RC2 immediately appeared more stable and responsive, compared to 1.0 RC1. Good work so far.

  20. raezr Nov 15, 2008 1:01 am Permalink

    so I take it there won’t be any robust podcast support in this release? That’s the only deal-breaker for me. Otherwise this is really great software. I definitely look forward to future releases!

  21. Wagaf-d Nov 15, 2008 2:23 am Permalink

    Great !
    Songbird is using aprox. 60MB (Linux x64 – music playing)…
    UI is nice and clean, adds-on are great…
    Just 1 or 2 important features missing but the platform feels stable and robust.
    I hope 1.0 will be a success :-)

  22. seba Nov 15, 2008 2:38 am Permalink

    Why search for an alternative icon when there is already a great one:

    http://getsongbird.com/images/songbird-logo.png

    I never understood why this wasn’t the icon instead of the headphones

  23. andrubuntu Nov 15, 2008 2:47 am Permalink

    Hi, just i tried RC2 in 64-bit Ubuntu. One thing that strikes me is how “inconsistent” it looks with the rest of the system. Will songbird be able to use that native theme in the final release (or later..)?

    thanks, and keep up the good work.

  24. lola Nov 15, 2008 3:00 am Permalink

    @André Kl.
    I had the same issue after multiple trunk upgrades on a other account. Cleaning the profile helped.

  25. Tim Nov 15, 2008 7:36 am Permalink

    The 0.7 beta doesn’t auto-update. Is this intentional?

    One would imagine the second release candidate of a 1.0 would be more stable than a 0.7 beta. If it isn’t you shouldn’t call it a release candidate.

  26. Nazgulled Nov 15, 2008 9:23 am Permalink

    In case you guys missed, I created the above bug report here:
    http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13696

  27. Daniel Raffel Nov 15, 2008 9:35 am Permalink

    @Nazgulled
    Thanks for taking the time to file the bug! We’ll definitely be following up with you to ask a few more questions so that we can track this down.

  28. Evan Gray Nov 15, 2008 9:50 am Permalink

    New icon please? Firefox’s is sooooo much better than these stupid headphones! Lame!

  29. Steven Nov 15, 2008 2:44 pm Permalink

    Well, RC2 is much more stable, seems to be using less RAM as well. One thing I am noticing is that is is changing my info without my consent though. I don’t know if this is the result of a conflict between Songbird and iTunes, or with any of my addons, but my album art keeps copying to other songs that I didn’t copy to, and my genres keep getting changed to numbers, specifically 17, 20, and 24. I don’t know why…

  30. sebastian Nov 15, 2008 5:15 pm Permalink

    one thing that sort of bugs me, just on a sidenote, is how much songbird is not a full media player. Am I wrong or doesn’t it even play a CD? How about ripping music from CD? Where’s a graphic equalizer? Aside from that, it’s slowly taking shape, can’t wait for the 1.0 final…

  31. jleger Nov 15, 2008 6:51 pm Permalink

    @Tim

    The “Check For Updates” from 0.7 to 1.0 was still in testing. It is schedule to be pushed live Monday, Nov 17th.

    Correction: The 0.7 to 1.0 auto upgrade won’t be available until 1.0 final is available for general use. In the meantime, you can always download 1.0 rc2 standalone installer.

  32. Dan Burke Nov 15, 2008 6:53 pm Permalink

    I’m not really into the new icon either. If I remember correctly, Hicks Design created the Firefox logo, maybe you should contact him about doing a similar logo for songbird. Maybe headphones wrapping around an egg.

  33. Dan Nov 15, 2008 7:13 pm Permalink

    About the Icon – I really liked the idea of watching the egg hatch as it gets closer to v1. I wasn’t expecting a pair of headphones to be in there ;p. While they’re nice looking headphones, they’re pretty souless, as @Steven’s already pointed out. I’d like the cartoon songbird myself, because it has loads of character. So, can different icons be added as a add-on? Integrated into the feathers systen? Or just crammed into the .exe?

    While I’m at it – just like to say that Songbird has now become my number 1 player. Sorry winamp. And it’s fills one of the big holes that’s stopped me converting to Linux (i.e. a media player I like). C’mon Photoshop CS5 Linux edition! Or at least Inkscape 1…

  34. deOmega Nov 15, 2008 9:44 pm Permalink

    The ICOn thing is being worked on, so it is not an issue now until we see what will be revealed, The headphone we are seeing now is supposed to be just a place holder, so we have to be patient.

    but.. on the humor side:
    I know that I am not the only one that see Dan’s post as being funny as heck! And in thinking about it, it really cracks me up… we have been seeing the bird images here and there on songbird pages, but the player was an egg waiting to be hatched….so, when it eventually hatched.. its a headphone! No resemblance whatsoever of a bird, egg, or songbird. :)

  35. qaol Nov 16, 2008 3:12 am Permalink

    I noticed 3 small bugs but atm i don’t the time to check if they were already reported and neither do i have the time to file them now

    on my wav files and even on one of my mp3 songbird does not show the titles length in the playlist; it does however show it at the replay information thingy (don’t know how to call it… the bar at the top/bottom that shows the title currently playing and so on)

    while in rc1 .wav files for me were added as an empty line they are now added with file name; the problem hereby is that they are added without any capital letters (even though they are in the filename) and with the .wav ending

    the replay information change some seconds before the song is actually finished; it does finish playing song before the next one starts only the information at the top change to early

    if there is further info needed tell me i will then file the bug when i get the time to (could be some days though)

  36. b0b Nov 16, 2008 4:52 am Permalink

    Here’s some remarks after tinkering with the RC2 for 2h or so:

    - Library and filter pane Media View:

    - When a file is imported into the library and I later change tags externally it seems impossible to make the library see the changes. Using FIle->Import Media seems to only add new files, it does not see updated metadata. I think it is important and should be fixed for 1.0 as it makes the Library too immutable otherwise. I’d add the ability to configure a set of directories that constitute the library and a manual action that updates the library with new files, remove dead files and update metadata. This is a good compromise until Watch Folder is implemented.

    - “bit rate” and “sample rate” columns are displayed with decimal digits: 883,000000 kbps. “size” column should be formatted using 2 digits

    - filter pane Media View: scrolling in lists is very slow. this is quite annoying but I fear it is a XUL performance problem.

    - “Album Artist” column should check the value of tag ALBUM ARTIST if BAND is empty

    - Album Artist should be allowed in the 3 filter panes (advantage is that it allows to group compilations into a single artist, instead of splitting the artists of the compilation all over the place)

    - file location show a URL encoded location (ie file:///Music/My%20Artsist…”) instead of a more sensible path for display

    - support for PUBLISHER tag (TPUB id3 frame) usable in a column an in a filter pane (This allow to sort the library by Label, useful for electronic/independant music)

    - uniform support for custom tags accross audio formats (TXXX frames for id3 tag, Vorbis comment for OGG, etc) displayable as columns and usable in the filter panes [ not urgent but would be super nice in the future ]

    - Playlist

    - in a playlist, right-click on a file: “Edit Properties” should be renamed “Edit Playlist Properties” as I initially thought it would be editing
    file properties.
    - switching between playlists is slow and there is visible redrawing (Another XUL problem ?)

    - Improvement: when dragging the current position slider, show the time postion of the slider to allow to move to a specific time in the song

  37. Gosia Nov 16, 2008 4:57 am Permalink

    Hi
    This new version doesn’t work with Windows Aero, in Vista, rc1 was working properly, is it problem of songbird or something else?

  38. Dave Nov 16, 2008 7:44 am Permalink

    WOW! great! the new skin is just perfect :D

    But:
    - The “MinimizeToTray” Extension doesn’t work
    - Is it possible to hide “Downloads” and “Bookmarks” on the left side?? Would be great!!! I just dont need them.
    - No snapping to edges for the mini-player?!?
    - To clear the search result – klicking on the X on the right side of the form –> why do i see a “text-cursor” instead of a normal cursor there?

    i can not say how mutch i love that software! OMF, i almost cry!! ;D

  39. Evan Gray Nov 16, 2008 9:08 am Permalink

    Aero works fine for me.

    Little problem here: when switching to MediaFlow and then back to filter pane, it loses your filter (eg. switches back to “All” instead of “Bright Eyes”).

    Maybe the fault lies in MediaFlow?

  40. Steven Nov 16, 2008 4:02 pm Permalink

    One other error I’m seeing: When I start songbird with a tab open(i.e. from last session) I don’t get a scroll bar on the right side and have to close/open the tab(not reload-doesn’t solve the problem) to get it back.

  41. Karlas Nov 17, 2008 12:35 am Permalink

    RC2 didn’t crash for me at any time :D

    - Minimize to Tray add-on doesn’t work

    - Sync Ipod with Songbird library was difficult: it did not nothing until I closed Songbird. Then i received the “erase and sync” message

    -I miss an equalizer :(

    Althogh this, i don’t use iTunes anymore :) Good work!

  42. Karlas Nov 17, 2008 12:51 am Permalink

    I just realized: Album art is not copied to my Ipod (Nano 2nd gen)

  43. Alfred Kayser Nov 17, 2008 2:11 am Permalink

    Check out my Walnut feather for Songbird 1.0!
    It is a brand feather, but based on the old and trusted Walnut themes for Firefox and Thunderbird. Especially for Songbird, it features some new effects (e.g. the tabbrowser buttons are now more like selector buttons) and includes support for the major extensions such as MashTape, ♪Photo, Lyrics, and many more.

  44. dj anger management Nov 17, 2008 2:25 am Permalink

    Hey, curious as i am i tried Songbird. This f****in birdy of yours destroyed my all-times-favorites-playlist on my iPod, and also deleted all the tracks from it. THANKS A LOT! you better fix that iPod shit before you go on releasing. I dragged a playlist from my iPod to my local playlists in songbird. somehow everything is gone and my iPod Classic 160 Gb now says theres 1 Gb of music on it instead of 78 Gb………. YOU FUCKING BASTARDS!! ……. sorry just had to say this, this was 2 years of intensive collecting, ripping, recording, sorting and re-ordering, now all i’ve got left is a textfile (playlist) no thanks to songbird, but some add-on because songbird doesn’t even have a fucking export function by itself. are you ASSHOLES going to help me get these 1000 songs back??? … yeah i thought so…… besides all this shit it generally just seems buggy and slow as hell on this state-of-the-art latest rendition of iMac, it also hanged when installed a few (apparently conflicting) addons which was only repairable by manually diving in my system… i don’t know guys, release candidate?? har har har… who you kidding? first Mac virus more like it….. sorry, i cheered for the concept but this shituation just total chokes on fucking cock…. xcuse the tude, but NO THANKS, cheers

  45. cbsim Nov 17, 2008 3:09 am Permalink

    Add in visualizer, and it will be perfect!

  46. qaol Nov 17, 2008 7:02 am Permalink

    ok still no time to file any bugs but i just ran into a major issue

    after a song was finished songbird started skipping through the next songs in ca 3 sec each without playing anything
    i decided to wait and after a while it started playing the songs normally again

  47. miya Nov 17, 2008 7:14 am Permalink

    @dj anger: U are a fucktard. Serves you right for not researching well enough before using something new. I don’t think songbird is that great an app, but I laugh at idiots like you. Too bad for your loss. Shit happens, and for some reason it only happened to you while a few thousand others have no problems with it. Sounds like it’s your own fault.

  48. miya Nov 17, 2008 7:32 am Permalink

    @dj anger: please take me hard in every orifice of my body ’cause i’m sad and lonely and all my emo-friends hate me

  49. dj anger management Nov 17, 2008 7:37 am Permalink

    @miya: i am sorry for you miya. and on another note: what should i research when offered a download? i might be a poor result of today’s jack off postpop culture but seriously, do you research all your downloads? geez you must have all kinds of time. i just expected this to work decently, and copying a playlist from a device to the local computer doesn’t seem to be such a fucktard move either, so the fuck you is all yours for the slobbering honey.

  50. Rich Nov 17, 2008 7:47 am Permalink

    @raezr:

    Keep waiting. I checked the roadmap and the Bugzilla, and as far as I can tell, true podcast usability was bumped from the “Hendrix” (Feb ‘09) road map, and is now vaguely assigned to “Future” which would be after the planned April ‘09 release.
    I’m in the same boat as you, I ONLY use iTunes for podcasting ->synching to my iPod, but iTunes has gone wacky on me lately, and was hoping there was a good alternative out there.

  51. Olivia Nov 17, 2008 9:06 am Permalink

    Hi!
    There was a major CPU/RAM usage improvement, that was great!
    Also i appreciate the UI enhancement, like the pane buttons; LOVED the drag and drop album art thing (i’m not sure if that’s how it’s supposed to be, but the drag and drop only works with plain images – wrapped in simple tags – it won’t work for images that are wrapped in url tags – like img – but i’m just sayin’.
    I was glad to see that Last.fm now recognizes SB as a player – when i enter my profile it says “Listening now with Songbird” (previously it said “listening now with Last.fm Scrobbler”).
    Apart from that, i’m still checking things out.
    I’m expecting further web browsing enhancements – favorites menu; songbird won’t be recognized as a browser by most sites, so i can’t use the New Yahoo Mail, and stuff like that.

  52. Olivia Nov 17, 2008 9:31 am Permalink

    How dumb of me, to post html tags on my comment above.
    Anyways, i forgot to mention something important (i think it’s important!!) – the SB icon should definetely be a bird. Not a headphone with a bird! The bird kind of makes a statement, not to say it’s much more appealing, while the headphone is so bland and generic. Instead of a headphone with a bird, why not a bird with a headphone maybe??

  53. Xero Nov 17, 2008 10:21 am Permalink

    Banshee 1.4 for Linux now has support for the Amazon store and T-Mobile’s G1 phone, are you guys also working on G1 support?

    http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20081117-banshee-1-4-offers-improved-device-support-g1-compatibility.html

  54. komi Nov 17, 2008 11:04 am Permalink

    @ Olivia

    Good catch! I filed a bug on your behalf. See bug 13741.

  55. pvh Nov 17, 2008 11:27 am Permalink

    @b0b:

    to update tracks which have been modified outside Songbird, load “about:config” in a new tab, then change “songbird.commands.enableRescanItem” to “true”.

    At that point you can right click any selection of tracks and choose “Rescan Metadata”. (You will have to refresh your media tab by clicking on the Library or something before the command appears.)

  56. Jason H Nov 17, 2008 12:43 pm Permalink

    Good luck to all for the final release. But for a while now an aspect has been missing from the Songbird releases – the link on the left panel to the Media History, showing all the searched for songs within the last week or so.
    This was such a handy link and I would like to see it make the final 1.0
    Many thanks, Jason.

  57. Londinium Nov 17, 2008 2:02 pm Permalink

    Need Musepack (mpc) support!

  58. Unk Nov 17, 2008 3:20 pm Permalink

    I too would love to have the ablity to sync Songbird with my G1 – In fact, the lack of this feature is the only reason why I’m even using Windows Media Player…

  59. cross Nov 17, 2008 4:00 pm Permalink

    The podcast function doesn’t work properly.
    If it doesn’t work, please remove this function to ensure the quality of this program.

  60. klint Nov 18, 2008 2:02 am Permalink

    For those who lack an proper podcast management in Songbird, why not using ziepod, the best podcast manager ever (maybe songbird should have a look to it :)
    I think it has a link to the iPod (but I don’t have any iPod, so please check).

    For the rest, Songbird RC2 has replaced my music manager.. no need for iTunes or whatever. And it’s speaking in French, among others…

  61. Nick P Nov 18, 2008 4:59 am Permalink

    Having a few issues with Mediacore error as well. No real pattern to the error, as far as I’ve been able to tell.

    But other than that, big ups on this release. RC1 completely bricked on one of my computers (64-bit vista). It wouldn’t play back files of any type. On an XP machine, it wouldn’t play WMA lossless. With RC1, aside from the low-occurance Mediacore error, it seems to be smooth sailing. Can’t wait for a few add ons to catch up.

    *Thanks for fixing the 2nd monitor maximize issue.
    *Library additions continue to be extremely fast. Even on a 5400rpm USB 2.0 external I’m using as a portable music library, adding media was sprightly. (I would LOVE to have a portable Songbird install for this drive. Eagerly waiting to see what portableapps does with it. I hope they’re working with the current release.)
    *Global hotkeys are great.

    I’m a big fan of this program. Thanks for all your hard work.

  62. Boris Nov 18, 2008 10:40 am Permalink

    @Jason H
    Removing Web Media History node from the service pane was decided by Product Management and, I’m afraid, will not get back in 1.0 final.

  63. rackersheep Nov 18, 2008 2:28 pm Permalink

    Let me say, first, that Songbird has GREAT POTENTIAL! But these first few releases cannot handle large libraries of music. I have more than enough memory sufficient for install specs but after my library is uploaded Songbird runs at a crippled snails pace and pretty much freezes my system.

    I have found that Winamp is much more light weight and able to handle more you throw at it. Songbird, as of now, cannot handle so much. I look forward to future releases of Songbird because i know that the addons will be great like with Firefox. Winamp is a bit scattered with plugins.

    THanks

  64. Michael Strogoff Nov 19, 2008 3:08 am Permalink

    Regarding the Removal of the web media history: I always thought songbird was about mashing up internet media with local media.

    Now isn’t it ridiculously stupid to remove the only way to keep track of things? Will there be any replacements in the future?

  65. Olivia Nov 19, 2008 3:14 am Permalink

    @rackesheep
    From reading the forums i suppose more people have the same problem as you.
    This is odd, but have the opposite problem here. My Winamp freezes all the time when ‘im browsing the library while with Songbird, i might be wrong, but i guess that only happened once, and that’s why i have always been so confortable with SB from the beggining. Computers.. go figure!!

  66. goodchild Nov 19, 2008 3:53 pm Permalink

    I really really want Songbird to work out! soon! its so great the way you install plugins right from the app.

  67. Steven Nov 19, 2008 6:25 pm Permalink

    Ok, please delete that.

    Anyways, I’m also receiving a problem where it fails to play any FairPlay song, however it does not give me a “Cannot Play” error. It shows that the song is playing but I hear no sound(and yes, other songs work-it’s not my speakers)

  68. pvh Nov 19, 2008 8:21 pm Permalink

    @Michael,

    Some of us here at the company miss it too. We’re hoping to spend some energy making web scraping, subscriptions, and podcasting more awesome some time soon, but until then, there’s an addon to fix it for you.

    http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/1287

    Huzzah!

    -pvh

  69. Michael Strogoff Nov 20, 2008 4:58 am Permalink

    That’s sweet. I apologise for my rude words.

  70. André Kl. Nov 20, 2008 3:14 pm Permalink

    Is there already a solution for my over mentioned problem?

  71. Fem Nov 20, 2008 5:42 pm Permalink

    I’m having the same problem as cellarmation. Three panes, but library does not work since I installed 1.0rc1 over 0.7 No matter how many times I uninstall it to get my old 0.7 back. It does not appear to be fixed with 1.0rc2 either. Any suggestions?

    NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED [ns1TreeView.getCellProperties] nsresult: 0×8000fff
    chrome://songbird/content/bindings/playlist.xml::onPlaylistClick::line 1729* data:no

  72. Boris Nov 21, 2008 12:00 am Permalink

    @Steven

    Sorry for a little delay.
    I’ve received your e-mail, thanks a lot.
    Still not able to reproduce adding numbers to Genre column on my machines.
    I got some media files from another user, so I will test this ASAP.
    Will follow up as soon as I have more information on this problem.

  73. Michael Strogoff Nov 21, 2008 4:35 am Permalink

    Two more things:

    First, would it be too complicated to implement an autowidth feature (switch?) for the columns? It’s sometimes annoying having to scroll the playlist sideways to see the contents of columns on the far right.

    Second, can tracknumbers under 10 be displayed with aleading zero (01, 02…)? I’d find this visually more appealing.

    Greetings

  74. Mazza Nov 21, 2008 5:50 am Permalink

    Hey guys you rock!
    songbird it’s my favorite player ever ;-)
    Just one simple question.. anybody nows why i can’t modify the tag of some tracks? Of course I’ve got all the privileges and no song is just read only.
    Any idea?
    Anyway, you’re a club of genius!

  75. Lukas_Skywalker Nov 21, 2008 7:18 am Permalink

    @Mazza
    wav-Files don’t work, also Video-Files cannot be tagged, afaik.
    For mor Information look here: http://blog.songbirdnest.com/2008/05/19/metadata-progress/
    are your files mp3?

  76. aus Nov 21, 2008 9:47 am Permalink

    @André Ki

    We think we’ve solved your problem in what will be RC3, stay tuned. (or try a nightly build if you’re impatient :) )

  77. Mazza Nov 21, 2008 10:30 am Permalink

    The problem seems to be with the LyricMaster extension, it doesn’t let me fetch multiple lyrics with the batch options for different artist. Trying to do it manually artist after artist seems to work. I don’t have a bugzilla account, otherwise I’ll send them the bug ;-)

  78. Enjabain Nov 21, 2008 11:44 am Permalink

    I have a problem, when you play a song it should play the songs following it in the album even if you change the filter. This is currently working in RC2, however when you highlight a different song it reads it as the now playing and plays the songs following it. I also posted this on get satisfaction, but with no reply.
    http://getsatisfaction.com/songbird/topics/play_queue_troubles
    thanks, the program is coming along quite nicely.

  79. André Kl. Nov 21, 2008 1:55 pm Permalink

    Thanks for your efforts. After I updated Songbird to a nightly version my problem is solved.

    Thanks guys!!!

  80. Marc Nov 21, 2008 1:56 pm Permalink

    Every time I execute songbird it keeps showing me the licence agreement, the media import and all of the inicial parameters stuff. It seems it believe it’s the first time I open it. It doesn’t save my preferences :/

  81. Jeff Nov 22, 2008 11:42 am Permalink

    Also having a problem with Fairplay songs playing, but with no audio output.

  82. Eric Dec 1, 2008 3:14 pm Permalink

    “You can absolutely count on us re-introducing video support in a future release down the road!”

    I hope “down the road” comes sooner rather than later. : ) My large music video collection is just as important to me as general audio playback. A primary reason I’ve switched from other players is songbird’s support for video (even if it has been a fairly basic implementation thus far…) I’ll be sticking to the 0.7beta until this has been resolved.

  83. ford Dec 4, 2008 7:33 am Permalink

    I’m afraid Songbird 1.0 deleted 5 gigs of tracks from my iPod as well.
    iPod 3rd generation. 10 gig model.
    I’ve also found the player to be unstable, having to force quit multiple times this morning.
    MacPro 3 Ghz, 4 gigs RAM, OS 10.5.5.
    Thought you should know.

  84. kr1zmo Mar 19, 2009 6:27 pm Permalink

    - When viewing your library of music lets say you scroll to the G’s and stop then then switch to a playlist, or downloads on the left bar.

    - The next time you switch back to library, “Songbird” doesn’t remember your scroll position, or place you back in the G’s where you left off. This gets quite annoying having to scroll down your whole list every time.

    - I know there’s a search feature to find songs, but that can get quite annoying searching for every song.