Ali’s idea :
FIRST !

On the first start with german language:
[JavaScript Error: "undefined entity" {file: "chrome://songbird/content/xul/recommendedAddOnsWizard.xul" line: 47 column: 1 source: " < wizard"}]

Restart in English worked fine.

Ok, I sound like a broken record to myself, but I have asked about this since the early days of Songbird. Where is CD ripping capability. I have been told it’s in the works, I have been told it has to wait on media core consistency, I have looked at the roadmap and seen that it wasn’t planned until 1.0. Well you have gstreamer as a consistent core, and this is the RC for 1.0. Why isn’t it there? This is THE dealbreaker for me and always has been. This one feature is the reason I do not use songbird for all my audio playback purposes. It is a pain dealing with importing files ripped in another program. Everything that you have said in the past was necessary to include this feature is in place, so why isn’t in the list of noteworthy 1.0 features?

Still uses alot of memory… not really a problem here (4gb), and of course I will still use Songbird, but I was definitely expecting a memory usage improvement.

point 2: still takes a long time to load up and to play music, but otherwise, good work guys. Still don’t think this should have been a 1.0, maybe a .8, but i guess you gotta do what you gotta do.
Also, like Clamm said, the Logo is kinda off the usual track… Expected a bird jumping out of a next or something… but headphones? Really?

I’m disappointed too with new icon and no cd rip feature yet.
But new changes are great, Songbird 1.0 is going to be THE media player

Wow, quick response. Good to see.
@jleger-
Windows Vista

On startup and while playing music it seems pretty high.

On startup: around 75,000 k
playback: around 100,000 k

Thank You!
I’ve got Linux and a big media collection (>16,000 mp3s). I’ve used Amarok all the time, because it was really fast (with MySQL-library) and I looked at Songbird from time to time… with .5 it got usable… .7 was a big performance improvement too, but this release is the first extremely fast one (maybe faster than Amarok!)! Now I think I will switch to Songbird…

Just as Geekshadow and many other, I’m not happy to deal with the new icon. I personally think Songbird lost a little bit of its soul from that perspective. If you don’t look closely you won’t recognize there actually is a songbird in the songbird-icon
It’s too average, It’s not songbird-style at all!

Regards of that you’ve done a good job. Thumbs up for sbTeam.

Oh sweet.

I’m already imagining what Songbird will be like in a year or two.

Some people can’t be satisfied.

love the upgrades. I agree about the logo but do not think the cd rip is a big deal. Is this going to be integrated in the new Qtrax 1.0 release? You would have an international test group. Thanks

On launch i see my library with the 3 filter panes showing the correct data, but my library is shown to be full but no song shows any detail. If i click on any of the blank songs i get an error like this :

playlist.xml – onPlaylistClick – [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x80070057 (NS_ERROR_ILLEGAL_VALUE) [nsITreeView.getCellProperties]” nsresult: “0×80070057 (NS_ERROR_ILLEGAL_VALUE)” location: “JS frame :: chrome://songbird/content/bindings/playlist.xml :: _onPlaylistClick :: line 1770″ data: no]

Running XP SP2 Installed songbird 1.0 over the top of 0.7.

@sebastion: i think this is standard procedure for mozilla-apps: 1.0 (the “branch”) is kind of frozen, only open for bug hunting and QA for the final 1.0 release. The development of new features continues in 1.1. (the “trunk”?).

So, with 1.1.0 Nightly you will be further than the 1.0 final. To get closer to the 1.0 final, use 1.0.rc2pre Nightly etc…

@ Boris, Jleger

I found a similar problem with all nightlys up to and including this release candidate, all were some form on not being able to see the Library page.

I have created a new profile and that works perfectly fine. Thanks for the help.

Change the icon please!
We want a nice bird!!

Alright, uninstalling the previous manually did solve that problem. Running Vista SP1 on a quad core with ample memory btw. Just a minor glitch there.

Did everybody read the Lifehacker review of rc1? http://lifehacker.com/5078386/first-look-at-songbird-10-aka-itunes-killer-aka-sloppy-mess

It has some good points in it, describes problems i have, too.

Please don’t rush the 1.0 release. Make sure, most of the bugs were found and gone…

(I did wonder, why didn’t you make a 1.0beta? Doesn’t matter, but i think it need at least 2 more RCs)

So, with no support for PPC, I figured I’d DL it to my machine at work, a MacBook Pro (Intel). I noticed someone else pointed out: no CD ripping.

Sorry: Game Over.

Why? Because I care about sound. I am on OSX. I’ve been “putting up” with mp3 audio for 10 years because drives and RAM were expensive. Now a terabyte drive is $150. I can (finally) rip my entire music collection with lossless compression. I have 1200 CDs. I ripped them all to mp3, but mp3 sounds like gurgling dawgturds. I *could* go to AIFF or WAV – but there are no ID4 tags for those files. So, if I rip a CD into WAV, I just get “a bunch of files”.

So, I ripped to high quality MP3 (at first 192, then 320). FLAC came up, and there is a plug in for iTunes for FLAC, but frankly, plug ins are stupid. I just want a music player that does FLAC. Apple lossless doesn’t cut it: I want to be able to bring my drive to my friend’s homes for parties and cookouts or deep listening on high end stereo systems, and they mostly run windows.

what I need is for Songbird to RIP CD’s, look up the content in CDDB, tag the files correctly, and save them as FLAC files in Artist based folders, like iTunes.

Anything less is a deal breaker. No rip – no use. No CDDB, no use – I’ll be DAMNED if I’m going to type the contents of 1200 CDs… No FLAC? no use, for the reasons stated above. No Artist Based folders? No use – I need to be able to find files outside of Songbird, quickly and easily.

So, while I do commend you on your efforts, Songbird isn’t going to sing here.

IF you do the above: get Songbird to do FLAC ripping and CDDB look up and tagging – you will win the hearts and minds of every high end enthusiast. you could easily charge Real Money (like $29.95) for that. I’d pay it. It’s the one part of the puzzle that is missing.

Hard drive space is insanely cheap now. I expect that in a few months, a terabyte will be under $100. There will be no real need (outside of iPods and phones) for MP3. FLAC stores ID4, so it is the OBVIOUS file format choice. Songbird does FLAC. But it doesn’t rip and doesn’t CDDB tag. Make that happen, and “you’re done”. Every single audio enthusiast magazine will review and the world will beat a path to your door. All those stupid pieces of gear – the Squeezebox, the Request, The McIntosh MS300 – they would all pretty much go out of business, because I could stick a PCMCIA SPDIF card in a cheap laptop, and SPDIF to a DAC like a Benchmark or an Apogee, and bingo: the circle is now squared, without having to piss away THOUSANDS on a dedicated FLAC player machine.

So: your marching order from Chez Warwick:

Rip CDs to FLAC and use CDDB for ID4 look up. Make it so. I will pay. So will millions of others. Or thousands. Or dozens. Well, me and my friend Erik will. And we’ll yell at my brother to do the same, ‘cuz he’s lazy that way. But do it, and make the World A Better Place.

HW

ha!, it looks like the Sennheiser HD595 (my headphones!) on the icon. I don’t think that could be the final icon, it must be something temporary.

@Martin

We agree that it’s a whizzy feature Here’s a link to the bug that is tracking that feature request: http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8269

Great release. There might be some bugs to be squished and improvements to be implemented before 1.0 final, but it’s already pretty good. 0.7 got interesting but was buggy and had some usability issues. These defects seem to be mostly gone in 1.0rc1. Great job.

I think I’ll switch to Songbird finally on my mac. Can’t stand the invasive ways iTunes handles things (no, I want to manage my files by myself and yes, I want to be able to see covers or use other nice functionality WITHOUT opening a iTMS account, albeit a free one!). On my Ubuntu computer, though, I think I’ll keep Quod Libet (great software), or may try Banshee. I think Songbird won’t fit there, the UI is too strange in a gnome environment (desktop integration counts ).

To Henry Warwick and those asking for a CD-ripping feature: why not, but:
- It’s a lot of work.
- There are great tools just for that, and sometimes it’s better to separate things a bit: one application = one core functionality. To me, ripping CD is quite different from listening to your music collection. It’s closer to managing files.

WoW guy’s I’ve been going back and forth from Songbird for a while, I liked it but a few things were just too slow for me but 1.0 rc1 is fast, it’s sexy, its finally searches my library fast and its just so clean…you’ve converted me from MediaMonkey to opensource!

the icon is so ugly, please change it

I miss the old icon. I want the bird back!

@André Kl.: We have two bug fixes forthcoming that may address your problems. One fix is for mp3 files with certain headers, and the other is for playback of DRM-protected files. If you are running into problems with any other files that aren’t m4p or mp3 files, hop on over to Get Satisfaction (http://getsatisfaction.com/songbird) and we can help you work through this further.

Wwwoooooww, it needs 194MB in memory to works.

I decided to give Songbird another try after hearing about the rc1 being available. I like it A LOT better than when I last tried it out (over a year ago). However, the memory usuage is just ridiculous. It is using up 280 MB of memory right now. (Not on start up, normal use.) I hvae a very large music library, but that is too much. I like Songbird but think I will go back to Rhythmbox until the memory usuage is reasonable. (Ubuntu 8.10, over 1/2 million mp3s)

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the shortcuts are good, but we need one more: playing a song by hitting the ENTER key. developers, please add this. thanks

the 1.0 rc1 and the nightly builds I have been trying all immediately crash and I get the DEP icon in the systray in Vista Business SP1. This is very weird I haven’t read anything about this in the bug reports or the comments here.

There are some specific songs that are apparently played by Songbird but I don’t hear nothing or it sounds like interference, I can’t find the patron of these song, what can I do?

Sorry, I’m pretty new to Linux (Ubuntu 8.10). Trying to install the Songbird 1.0 rc1. Can’t get it to install. Can anyone give me any pointers?

Can album art fetching be incorporated into the release?

Add these features please:

1. When songbird is the active window, hitting letter keystrokes activates the search field and it should automatically search for that entry on the library.

2. After songbird filters the entry in the search field, allow scrolling through the filtered entries in the library directly via up and down keystrokes without the need of clicking the mouse on the list.

3. Hitting Enter after scrolling through the list plays the song and loads back all the song entries in the library/playlist.

These are Amarok features and I find them very handy. I hope Songbird will have them in the next realease.

Thank Your for this great software!