Large library performance is a major theme this release, and the first few fixes are in: On my Mac Pro I’m seeing a 45% improvement over 0.7 when importing 10,000 tracks from a local folder.
The win came mostly from removing the boring/terrifying “Identifying and Removing Duplicates” phase of the media import process. This phase was added around 0.6 to protect finicky MTP devices, but didn’t turn out to be that important.
Don’t worry about being overwhelmed with duplicate files, there is always stevel’s The Exorcist add-on.
Next week, faster search?
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Subscribeits great to see new speed improvement
agreed. until the folder watching and library organization is in place, i’ll probably be doing this once a month. are there plans to increase the speed of mounting ipods with large libraries?
Always fun looki’n at such a good Graph, nice work sb team!
Woot new gstreamer coming in next nightly
That will also give us performance improvements and better usability:)
Might I recommend, pause-less playback? iTunes has it, and it is the single most annoying irritation I have with Songbird.
If you don’t know what it is:
Suppose you want to play an album which has every track sync up to the next one, kind of like Pink Floyd’s Dark Side of the Moon (awesome album BTW), it is quite annoying to here pauses between the tracks.
So, yeah, could you work on that for 0.8 or later versions? Thanks in advance.
Awesome. Effing awesome!
Smart move on the not checking for dupes on import. I’m sure there are and will be plenty of add-ons for preening libraries. I think it’s best left up to the user anyway. There may actually be a reason for duplicates.
Um, Attack of the Clones has not been updated since 0.5 because you included the duplicate-killing functionality in 0.6. “As of Songbird 0.6, duplicates are no longer allowed in the library - so this addon is no longer needed!” The plugin will not install in 0.7. If you’re going to recommend Attack of the Clones as an alternative, please work with the plugin maker to get it updated:
http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/214
Nelson: oops! good point. I’ll hassle stevel.
Titanius: no promises, but gapless playback is currently in the plan for this release. See http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12093
Unacoder: I’m pretty sure this fixes the ipod mounting performance problem. It definitely fixed MTP devices, but I haven’t checked ipods yet.
I would like to see that if you have the addon installed, it gives you a button to click on scan in, so you can remember to do it then.
fast search?
it’s great..
i really sometimes find it hard to search…
Where are the new nightlies, I see only builds untill 9/14?
@muisje: We changed our build system so that it only creates builds when something changes. That’s why we didn’t have 9/15 builds (no checkins on Sunday). Last night’s build broke, which is why there isn’t a 9/16 build (yet). Check back later today.
“Titanius: no promises, but gapless playback is currently in the plan for this release. See http://bugzilla.songbirdnest.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12093”
Sweet, can’t wait to have it!
@ali
ok cool, thanks!
btw when will come Help –> Check for updates available for nightlies like in Firefox?
@muisje: I don’t have a date for you, but it is on our to-do list.
That’s why we didn’t have 9/15 builds
From now on, we try to provide a fast delivery in more than 80%
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So - I am giving this a shot and imported my 67k tracks at about 440 gig…I am testing this to see if it will work with the 1.5 TB of music I have. The player just does not like the sizes that much, and once opened the speed is not great.
Do you think this is songbird limitations, laptop limitations, or…something else?
laptop is 3.5 gig ram, duo core 2.4 ghz,
music on external drive…
Thanks.
jason
Hi Jason,
I assume you are using Songbird 1.0 RC3?
To be honest it is a probably all of the above problems.
60-100k tracks is about the limit that Songbird supports at the moment. On my quad core desktop 100k is usable, but not amazing. This is a significant step from 0.7 though, where it was barely usable with 10k tracks.
For 1.1 we’ll be addressing memory usage, startup time, and and various cases where large libraries aren’t taken into account.
How do other media players perform with on this laptop with the same library?
Matt - none of the other players like it that much. iTunes…brutally slow, but able to connect to my Roku device wirelessly which is nice. I have not found the songbird wireless share piece yet…any direction on that?
real - not even worth more words and windows media is ok - similar to iTunes, i just don’t like the interface. I’ve toyed with switching to a mac, but most of the music is not what I would call kosher.
Do you think songbird would work on a 5 bay NAS with media server? I am tempted to switch to that to serve the music directly…
FYI - I’m happy to share my experience with my library size, but I am not that technical a person.
Jason
Thanks for the feedback Jason. Songbird may be a few releases away from handling your entire library well. It should work with the NAS though.
As for the Roku, am not sure. Some people are working on DAAP and UPnP sharing, which may help.