Songbird 0.7 Release Candidate 1 is Available for Testing

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Songbird 0.7 RC1 is now available for download!

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For those interested, here are the most noteworthy and complete features we’d like to call out in RC1 and get your feedback on:

  • Refreshed UI: refined look and feel
  • New setup assistant: get up and running in Songbird with ease (requires a fresh profile)
  • Smart playlists: create dynamic playlists based on criteria you set
  • Concert calendar: find upcoming shows in your area based on the artists in your library
  • Last.fm support: scrobble the tracks you play and love or ban them
  • GStreamer on all platforms: this is our first cross platform release using GStreamer as our new media core, by default it handles all FLAC playback on Windows/Mac (or you can enable GStreamer to handle more codecs)
  • Zippier metadata reading: much faster media scanning
  • Reduced memory usage on Windows/Linux: we landed jemalloc as the applications memory allocator

As always, please file any issues, bugs, or crashes you find in Bugzilla so that we can address them before 0.7 final!

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  1. Underlying Patterns Aug 1, 2008 4:19 pm Permalink

    Who’s got the macppc build? Anyone? Bueller? My OG Mac Mini is not up to it or I’d get it going.

    Haaaaalp1!

  2. raffel Aug 1, 2008 4:58 pm Permalink

    @Underlying Patterns
    As previously announced there will be no further Official Mac PPC builds of Songbird. But, perhaps a developer from the community will express interest in building and maintaining a Mac PPC build. We already have several 3rd party contributed Songbird builds and would love to see more!

  3. koppah Aug 1, 2008 5:48 pm Permalink

    First impressions:

    On first launch, after adding files to the library, it wouldn’t play. The Play Queue wasn’t in the UI and it wouldn’t appear. I had to restart it….

    The skin doesn’t feel ’smooth’ enough. I don’t know how to explain it, but it feels disjointed - like some elements are from one philosophy and others for a different one. That said, the shading on the buttons is quite well done!

    On my Vista x64, it’s still using 100mb of RAM, but much less CPU.

    Adding things to the Play Queue isn’t intuitive enough - if I tell something to play, it plays directly out of the library, but if I want to add it to the Play Queue, I need to clear my previous Queue and select ‘Add to Queue’.

    Searches are cleared from the library if you change to another view - I think they should remain.

    After adding some FLACs I had to the library, their metadata wasn’t read in, it just displays the filename. Also, when I told it to play, it just went straight to my previous Play Queue. Once I cleared the Queue, it immediately started playing the FLAC files.

    Overall, it’s great to see the quality of Songbird keep on rising like it is! It’s uber-fast now and really stable. Obviously, it has some niggling issues, but it’s certainly a step forward. As a useability gripe, I don’t feel like the UI is quite ‘tight’ enough. I know that the idea behind SB is to ‘Play the Web’, but as a music player it definitely feels like there is a disjoint between the library/browser side and the music player side.

    Cheers.

  4. trent olson Aug 1, 2008 6:05 pm Permalink

    thanks for the build…installing it now. just wanted to comment that it’s great you said smart playlists were “just days” away from shipping about a half-hour before you shipped ‘em… :)

  5. auralvance Aug 1, 2008 9:22 pm Permalink

    RAWK. Nice guys! I’m all over it. =)

  6. Daniel Raffel Aug 1, 2008 9:26 pm Permalink

    @trent olson
    Yes, Smart Playlists are technically available in this RC but we still have a bit more work to do before we’re ready to call attention to it. You can follow along here as we burn down the bugs!

  7. komi Aug 1, 2008 10:01 pm Permalink

    @koppah
    Finding the right balance between Songbird’s “library/browser side and the music player side” is the million dollar question - it is something we discuss internally on a daily basis. I feel that we took one step in the right direction with the changes we made during this release but understand that the problem isn’t totally solved.

    I’m not ashamed to say that I think it’s going to take at least a few more releases before the UI feels really mature. Right now the feedback that we receive from the community is the biggest data point that we use to validate/invalidate our best thinking. Your feedback makes Songbird better so please keep them coming!

  8. auralvance Aug 1, 2008 10:11 pm Permalink

    Hey guys, I tried out SB_GST_ENABLE=all with the new 0.7 RC and it got ugly. I couldn’t play any media and kept receiving a “gstreamer plugin needed for playback” message. Bug opened: #11357

  9. Jigar Shah Aug 2, 2008 12:48 am Permalink

    I am using nightly builds since very long time. This was the only release where i found so many issues with nightly. I always used separate profile though. But eventually most of hem got resolved. Just one question, Again i will have to create new profile and scan files again ? All my ratings and playlist will be gone ? Any other way to smoothly upgrade ?

  10. Luke Aug 2, 2008 2:29 am Permalink

    Hey,

    As soon as I installed this I thought “Wtf? It’s white? Damn this sucks”. Then I was like “Nah… just forget what you remember of the old Songbird. This is the new Songbird!” and I liked it much better :). Still, I do think the UI is a bit weak. Not the positional changes to the UI, they are perfect. I’m talking about the colors, mostly contrast. The bottom part and the very top part are good, but the middle (With the lists of the songs, etc) is just too damn white for me.

    And one last feature suggestion… The “Now Playing” part, where it has ’song - artist - album’, it would be awesome if clicking ’song’ would take you to that song as if “All” was selected for Artist, Genre & Album, whereas clicking ‘artist’ would refine the search down to only include that artist, and clicking ‘album’ would refine it further to select that artist & album. I hope you understand what I’m trying to say…

  11. Guillaume Faure Aug 2, 2008 4:37 am Permalink

    Just downloaded the RC. Just my first impression like that, WOW. I really love the new theme. I would like to test the GST engine :D, but even setting the environment doesn’t seem to do it, I’ll search a little more :p. But for now, I seems Soooo much more responsive that the previous release on my system (Leopard).

    Thank you so much for the hard work.

  12. sili Aug 2, 2008 7:55 am Permalink

    “Identified Songbird 1.0 Platform Support
    We locked down the platforms we’ll be supporting for 1.0 they are: Windows Vista/XP, Mac OS X Intel Machines, Linux 32- and 64-bit.”

    So, from now on its impossible to play music on Win 2000? At least, nothing happens when I double click a song. Everything else seems to work without any problems.

  13. frozen Aug 2, 2008 8:21 am Permalink

    Why is that smartplaylists cannot autoupdate if I select sort by “random”? It used to work in the blessed nightly but it doesn’t anymore in RC1. Everytime i select sort by “random” the autoupdate check box is cleared.

  14. ali rayl Aug 2, 2008 10:54 am Permalink

    @frozen: We’re still working out some bugs in smart playlists, and that’s one of them. See bug 11093 for details.

  15. Aus Aug 2, 2008 1:03 pm Permalink

    @koppah

    We’d love to figure out why you had a poor first experience. If you could hop onto bugzilla.songbirdnest.com and file a bug with relevant error console output and info about the files you were importing that would be super awesome! :)

    In general I’d also want to point out that in 0.7 we introduced data migration for libraries! We’ll never make you lose your library data ever again :)

  16. Aus Aug 2, 2008 1:07 pm Permalink

    @Guillaume and @auralvance

    If you try and enable gstreamer playback for all formats, you have to install an extra add-on as well. It’s available on the nightly add-ons download page over here.

  17. Aus Aug 2, 2008 1:09 pm Permalink

    @Guillaume

    Ooops, didn’t notice you were running on Leopard. We haven’t posted the add-on for gstquicktime yet. Stay tuned!

  18. Aus Aug 2, 2008 1:11 pm Permalink

    @sili

    Some of the API’s we use for MTP device support are only available on XP and Vista. If you don’t need those features then you are very likely to not run into problems :)

  19. JD Aug 2, 2008 10:19 pm Permalink

    I love songbird and all, but it deffinitely needs iPod Touch/iPhone support before no one uses them anymore.But other than that this songbird release is great and the new skin looks nice too!

  20. Dror Aug 2, 2008 10:59 pm Permalink

    What about Last.fm audio fingerprinting? Does support it?

    http://blog.last.fm/2007/12/07/client-14-released-fingerprinting-begins

  21. IronicMoth Aug 2, 2008 11:13 pm Permalink

    In the midst of my download, I remembered that I needed iTunes for my Last.fm scrobbles and I stopped the download.
    Then I saw that you have Last.fm support in the 0.7 RC1.
    Downloading that now =]. Very, very looking forward to giving it a test-run.

  22. sili Aug 3, 2008 4:36 am Permalink

    Aus: I do not use MTP. But it seems impossible to play a song with Win2000. Is this Gstreamer related?

  23. cellarmation Aug 3, 2008 9:24 am Permalink

    Since using 0.7 rc1 i find the music jolts at times. Like say if i re size the library’s columns a lot it might momentarily pause of stutter the music. Is this something to do with the switch over to gStreamer?

    Can’t wait for more feathers to become 0.7 compatible.

  24. Clamm Aug 3, 2008 10:23 am Permalink

    i know discussions abut design can be quiete annoying… but i really miss the darker colors. Maybe i would get used to the new layout but i think songbird lost a lot of its originality by default and just looks like any other Application which uses COCOA ;-) Anyway the release is really appreciated!!! Nice idea woth the icon ;-)

  25. sebastian Aug 3, 2008 12:15 pm Permalink

    @ironicmoth last.fm was always available as a plugin, also, if i’m not mistaken

  26. Mister Potato Aug 3, 2008 1:28 pm Permalink

    Nice release. Just trying it now and discovering the new and nice features. I was going to ask for a rating system in the miniplayer and pam! is there before I had to do so :D
    I miss the “always on top” option, tough. Why is not there anymore? (It was in some of the nightlies)

  27. fanfan Aug 3, 2008 2:47 pm Permalink

    AWESOME. Running on Ubuntu 8.04.1

    The iPod functionality is amazing now. I’ve been trying Songbird out since .3 and you are right on the edge of becoming my main media player.

    I am getting a few instances of not being able to find a couple properly tagged mp3s in my library that I know are there (I can see them in other media players). Songbird is seeing the total number of tracks correctly though, so I am assuming it is some weird glitch on my end.

  28. koppah Aug 3, 2008 6:13 pm Permalink

    @Aus:

    I’ll try to get a ‘first’ experience going again if I get a chance… :) Trying it on my Mac now!

  29. koppah Aug 3, 2008 7:11 pm Permalink

    OK first experience on a Mac. Library import worked flawlessly, but my WindowServer and SystemUIServer hung when I tried to drag a folder into the library. I haven’t tried to replicate it, I just dragged the files in. Not sure if it’s an issue with OS X or with SB.

    That said, playing FLACs now and it’s working quite well. It skipped a bit when my system was doing heaps of stuff (iTunes never does, maybe something to do with threading?). Other than that, it’s working quite well - not using too much memory and CPU usage is much better.

  30. Bobby Bonzai Aug 4, 2008 1:48 am Permalink

    Very very nice release, I really like the UI updates, and it’s a lot more zippy reading metadata, indeed. The iPod support is still not quite there though. Took 20+ to mount my almost full 80Gb iPod.

  31. spencer Aug 4, 2008 4:42 am Permalink

    I really like the new layout and style but much prefer the rubberducky colour scheme, any chance there could be a nice black alternative skin?

  32. Micka Aug 4, 2008 7:48 am Permalink

    Seems awsome! But what about the USB support? I’m using a SD card (in my WM6.1 PDA) to carry my music and it’s not seen by the MTP plugin :o( Any solution? Thanks a lot!

  33. Nick Aug 4, 2008 9:12 am Permalink

    Last.fm scrobbling doesn’t seem to be working for me, when I play a song - it shows up on my Last.fm profile as “now playing”, but when it gets to the next song, it never actually scrobbles it and just shows the new song as “now playing” - without a trace of the previous one.

  34. Wagaf-d Aug 4, 2008 10:21 am Permalink

    WWoow….
    The new UI is awesome !
    You are the best ! (maybe the “finding duplicates” phase was a little bit long but… it’s just a RC)

  35. msmith Aug 4, 2008 10:38 am Permalink

    Hi all. Some of you have mentioned problems with using gstreamer in this rc, so I’m going to look into the problems.

    Guillaume: Can you tell us what exactly you were trying to do? And what went wrong?

    Aus: the quicktime addon is included, so a separate download isn’t needed.

    Auralvance: I think we helped you on the bug you filed? You’re just missing an addon, as Aus said.

    If anyone else is having issues, please let us know!

  36. Picky Aug 4, 2008 10:56 am Permalink

    Completely off topic and unnecessary: Why does a bird climb?!?

    Anyway, nice to see progress. Have been dropping in and out for a while. Believe the last one I tested was 0.4. ’bout time I tested again.

  37. Ian McKellar Aug 4, 2008 11:55 am Permalink

    @Nick, hmm, I don’t know why the scrobbling wouldn’t work. Could you open a ticket on getsatisfaction.com - I can work with you there to find a solution.

    @Dror, I’m not familiar with Last.fm fingerprinting, I know that you can submit the Musicbrainz id with scrobbles and the mbid can be determined through their MusicIP fingerprinting. We’re looking at adding this in the future by using GStreamer’s built-in Musicbrainz fingerprinting element.

  38. stevel Aug 4, 2008 1:19 pm Permalink

    @Picky He’s too bloated to fly, so he has to climb.

  39. simmons Aug 4, 2008 11:20 pm Permalink

    can anyone help me out with changing the icon back to the .7 pre icon of the broken egg? i really like that one and i can see it better in my quick launch bar.

  40. auralvance Aug 4, 2008 11:22 pm Permalink

    @ msmith: That’s probably the issue, but there’s no mention of that add-on anywhere. Both this post and the multiple gstreamer instructions on the wiki don’t mention anything about it. ;)

    Also, that add-on doesn’t seem to be set to 0.7 max version, so I can’t actually test it:

    “Windows native media support 1.0.1pre-20080802 could not be installed because it is not compatible with Songbird 0.7.0rc1.”

  41. Johan Aug 5, 2008 12:58 am Permalink

    I have to say I’m not really a fan of the new greyish look of Songbird. I really liked the blackness in previous releases. It made it stand out.

  42. ruipenunes Aug 5, 2008 1:50 am Permalink

    Step by step it’s getting there, but I’m still missing, in particular, a couple of things. Probably someone has mentioned these before, but here I go anyway:

    1. I have been using MediaMonkey as my player. I used it to rate all my mp3, however these ratings don’t apear in songbird. Why does this happen?

    2. If i’m listening to a particular selection of mp3 and I have to close songbird, I would expect that I could continue listening to that selection after opening it again. This doesn’t happen and I must say it’s quite annoying.

    Apart these, there are a few more things that could make songbird my favorite player, but from what I’m seeing it’s a question of time. Got to be patient!

  43. sebastian Aug 5, 2008 4:49 am Permalink

    hi fellas. due to some posts above I’ll be more careful and not try this RC1, how about releasing an RC2 this week? that might do the trick for me ;-))

    anyways here are somethings that I’d like to see Songbird progress towards for 0.7 (or 0.8):
    - better performance (when i click on a song i’d like it to play, and not 2 seconds later)
    - what about an equalizer of some sort (or pre-settings for different sorts of music or speaker setups)
    - navigation to and from library/browser mode should always remember where you were. maybe those should be tabs…. no idea

  44. João Almeida Aug 5, 2008 6:13 am Permalink

    This looks quite promising but I’ll wait until the iPod support becomes a bit more mature

  45. Ruben Aug 5, 2008 7:19 am Permalink

    This is almost the coolest media player i have heard about, however, you still need to add en equalizer so that I can think of it as the best.

  46. msmith Aug 5, 2008 10:16 am Permalink

    auralvance: I think you must have downloaded a nightly addon for gstreamer/directshow integration? Those are now set to be for 0.8.*.

    You should download the addon from the addons site: http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/1282

  47. atreiu Aug 5, 2008 1:03 pm Permalink

    Found a bug on the install-routine?

    Songbird installs only in an empty folder. But I have some not indirect related files in my songbird folder, so it will not install.
    (I have some songbird-icon files in songbird-folder)

    I think a better way would be to check, if there are files that can cause problems, not just require an empty directory.

    (of course I can do a workaround, but i’ve never seen an install-routine like this and i think it would be better without that need for an empty folder)

  48. atreiu Aug 5, 2008 1:42 pm Permalink

    Some more comments:

    1. New look is great! (the colors are a bit ituny, but i like the new layout)

    2. Sound is awful! Did you change something there? It sounds like 64k mp3s. Kind of flat. An equalizer would be cool…

    3. Play Queue is really not intuitive. Take a look at the behavior of WMP or something. For example, if i double click a song in the play queue, the songs above this song disappear. Never seen that before. And adding songs to queue isn’t intuitive, too. For example i can’t drag & drop files to “Play queue” in the right panel…

    4. Play Queue has no Icon? (like the house for “Birdhouse”?)

    5. Minor thing: “Always show tab-bar”-Option is not working right: if i have no tabbar visible (only one tab open), then i go to Options, set “Always show” to true, click ok, then the tabbar is still not visible. I have to open another tab, tab-bar appears, then after i close the second tab, finally the tabbar stays visible.

    6. Feature suggestion: I would love intelligent column-sizing for the library: if the album title is long, but the interpret name is short, the interpret-column should become smaller to make space for a bigger album-title-column etc.
    And the columns should resize, if i change the size of the whole songbird-window.

    7. How can i hide some categories from the right panel? If i don’t need category “radio”, can I hide it? What about drag & drop for rearranging categories?

    8. Keep on the good work! Songbird rocks!

  49. atreiu Aug 5, 2008 1:54 pm Permalink

    Sorry, one more:
    The first Tab (Library, Now Playing, etc…) keeps on showing the loading-animation, all the time. Is this intended?

  50. Julio Angel Ortiz Aug 5, 2008 8:03 pm Permalink

    Using Songbird on my Mac OS X notebook. I have Flip4Mac installed so that I can listen to WMA files. However, Songbird does not read the metatag information. Is there any chance this could be added in the future? Thanks.

  51. jishu1972 Aug 8, 2008 12:40 am Permalink

    You are doing a good job but really there is something that is very missing and is a cddb integration for gatering missing information from the web about the track-cd that is playing.

  52. ATS Aug 8, 2008 5:16 am Permalink

    I tried out some older versions of Songbird, but I never liked the GUI. Now, this new design is much better in my opinion. Of course, this is a nightly, so there are still a lot of bugs, but I’m sure I’ll switch to Songbird (from the evil iTunes;) once you release the final version.

  53. Robert Aug 9, 2008 7:01 pm Permalink

    Songbird just became my favorite media player.

  54. Domenico Graziano Oct 4, 2008 2:06 pm Permalink

    is very good buth shod be mor isee to dowulaod samthing.

  55. Brian Oct 30, 2008 2:54 pm Permalink

    I don’t know why I can’t seem to drag songs, or albums to different album folders, genres, etc.

    For instance one of my songs is miscategoried, and I want to drag it to the right album, but it doesn’t seem to work when I click and drag to where I want it to move to. It makes a little icon like it wants to add it, but never does. Windows Media PLayer 10 lets me drag stuff between folders, genres, etc.

  56. baroo Nov 21, 2008 4:42 pm Permalink

    I find that when I change the minimum font size to become larger (which I need to do as my computer is a media center and so I generally sit a fair distance from it) the UI does not scale properly to account for the larger font.

    When is this problem going to be fixed? I cant use Songbird until it scales the interface properly.

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