Songbird 0.6 Final Released: Harder, Better, Faster, Stronger!

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The march towards our first public beta has begun! We’ve been sifting through comments from the community and using user feedback as one of our guides to help make Songbird better. We hope you enjoy our latest update.

What’s New in 0.6

In this release you’ll notice significant performance improvements and many new features:

Performance Enhancements

Large LibrariesLarger Library Support
Songbird can now easily handle libraries with 10,000+ tracks.

Smooth ScrollingSmoother Scrolling
Once the metadata scanner is done, scrolling in a large library is smooth and responsive.

Fast FiltersFaster Filtering
Filtering by genre, artist, album, and year is almost instantaneous.

Speedier SearchSpeedier Search
No long lags or locked up UI when searching your Library.

Memory ManagementImproved Memory Management
On Windows and Linux we implemented jemalloc as our memory allocator for XULRunner and have noticed approximately 15-20% memory reduction in common user tasks.

New Features

Metadata ManagerMetadata Writing
We have a new Metadata Editor that allows you to edit your media and write the changes back to your file(s). You can read a bit more about it here.

More MTPSync Support for MTP Devices
On Windows, MTP Devices now support Sync functionality!

iPod SupportImproved iPod Support
The iPod add-on has been rewritten and a number of bugs have been squashed. We have also started maintaining a new wiki page that details what iPod models we support.

Edit MenuThe Edit Menu Works!
Copy, paste, select all, undo, redo, delete and find text to your heart’s content.

Webpage FindFind Text on Webpages
A number of users asked for a way to easily search for text within a webpage, now you can!

Bitrate SortingFilter/Sort by Bitrate and Sample Rate
Now you can easily sort and filter your library by sound quality.

Clean View MenuSimpler View Menu
It’s easier to switch feathers and show/hide display panes than ever before.

SHOUTcast RadioSHOUTcast Radio
Easily discover and stream music using the new integrated SHOUTcast Radio directory.

For Developers

Shoutcast RadioWe’ve created a simple guide for updating 0.5 Feathers to be 0.6 compatible.

Early Feedback on 0.6 is Positive

“I’m happy to report that for the first time Songbird was actually able to scan and index all 140 GB worth of my music without issue” - Scott Gilbertson - WIRED

“I’ve been testing [Songbird] out at each point release, and have been blown away by the improvements in speed and stability in 0.6rc4. I have a library of almost 30,000 songs and this release of songbird handles it like a charm. The last release was unusable for a library of this size. Well Done and keep it up!” - chasingtheflow - Songbird user

Stress Tested

What’s Next for Songbird?

We’ve already started working on the next release! Our goal is to focus on user experience optimizations and performance improvements. Here’s a preview of some of what we’re currently exploring: new look and feel for Songbird (layout and feather changes), new first-run experience, more intuitive drag & drop interactions, smart playlist functionality, watch folders, continued performance improvements, and much more. Stay tuned to the blog to keep up to date on our progress or check out one of our nightly builds and see for yourself! We’re always interested in hearing your feedback so please comment on our blog and file bugs and/or feature requests in bugzilla. Our next stop is a more public beta, hope to see you there!

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  1. jkoshi Jun 13, 2008 2:26 pm Permalink

    0.6 on Lucky 13!

  2. GeekShadow Jun 13, 2008 2:56 pm Permalink

    lol jkoshi ;)

    YAY for 0.6 release !!!
    and don’t forget to check our last extension :
    http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/1221

    :D

  3. raffel Jun 13, 2008 3:16 pm Permalink

    @koshi
    nice graphic!

    @GeekShadow
    I’m digging BirdQuizz, what a creative media view!

  4. Daniel Jun 13, 2008 4:11 pm Permalink

    I installed SB, had imported my files, and then went to search my library.

    SB froze up on me mid search and was using 140,000k mem usage.

  5. jkoshi Jun 13, 2008 4:30 pm Permalink

    @Daniel, how many tracks do you have in your library?

  6. Daniel Jun 13, 2008 4:43 pm Permalink

    About 10,000.

    Im using Windows XP.

  7. jkoshi Jun 13, 2008 5:06 pm Permalink

    @Daniel, did you try clearing your profile and trying again? If you continue to experience problems please file a bug and include as much detail as possible.

  8. sebastian Jun 13, 2008 5:35 pm Permalink

    SB not auto-updating from rc4 to final ;-(

  9. koppah Jun 13, 2008 5:49 pm Permalink

    Whoa nice work guys (and gals)! :) I’ll give it a whirl soon!

  10. raffel Jun 13, 2008 5:52 pm Permalink

    @sebastian
    Not that it helps after the fact but I added an updated comment on the RC4 page today about this issue. Unfortunately, after we shipped rc4 we noticed that automatic application updates for *only* the Windows rc4 build was broken. You’ll need to download the final 0.6 build from the homepage, sorry! We’ll be pushing out updates for a range of other previous Songbird clients sometime early next week.

  11. Sound Thinker Jun 13, 2008 7:12 pm Permalink

    I’m trying to figure this out, as I am very interested in Song. But I have a library that I would consider to be BIG, but not LARGE. Your new version is touting to handle 10,000 songs, but that in my opinion would be a “beginners” sized library! When I first started to put my music library into iTunes, I had more than the iTunes program could handle, over 30,000 songs back in 2002.

    You have a user mention Song handling 140 GBs of music, but then again, that’s a puny sized Library. I have more than 4 TB or 4000 GB of Apple LossLess files!

    And I do not have a large library, I have just a big one.

    Should I try loading my library into Song?

    Sound Thinker

  12. Satchmoe Jun 13, 2008 7:33 pm Permalink

    WOOOO!!!! Cant wait to try it out.

  13. Daniel Raffel Jun 13, 2008 7:38 pm Permalink

    @Sound Thinker
    We’d love for you to give Songbird a try and we’d be curious to hear how your library performs. We’re going to continue to improve the experience so feedback is greatly welcome. That said, for this release we certainly haven’t been optimizing for your kind of library - so we’re just not sure what you should expect. Consider yourself our first TB lossless tester on 0.6 (that we know of)! If you do hit any issues, we’d love to hear more feedback in the form of a bug so that our QA and engineering teams can explore it further! Thanks!!

  14. Hunter Barrington Jun 13, 2008 8:22 pm Permalink

    Great stuff! You guys keep giving me good things to say about you in my blog. As promised the UI is much faster and it’s actually usable now. Man, if you guys keep adding features and squashing bugs like you have been this is going to quickly become my favorite media player.

  15. Daniel Raffel Jun 13, 2008 8:30 pm Permalink

    @Hunter
    That’s our goal! We’re working hard to earn the spot. Thanks for the kind words, it means a lot to the team. And, if there are things you’d like to see us focus on please let us know!

  16. aus Jun 13, 2008 8:45 pm Permalink

    @Hunter

    Thanks for the kind words of encouragement :) We’re looking forward to making Songbird your everyday player :)

  17. FreeLance_FoX Jun 13, 2008 9:07 pm Permalink

    I updated and immediately noticed how much faster SB was running! Although I did lose all the tracks I had downloaded from blogs and whatnot (not my purchased tracks) in the switch, somehow. Either way I remedied that and am LOVING the new version! I just wanted to thank you all for the hard work!

    Also Jkoshi I love all of the art! I’ve been meaning to comment on how much more enjoyable this entire project is having such amazingly talented artwork with your unique style. Really. >_0

    Oh and finally, anyone on the team is there an easy way to add a google search to the toolbar? That’s the one thing that’s been irking me, as I haven’t been able to find a way.

    Thanks!
    -FoX

  18. Mitchell Jun 13, 2008 9:43 pm Permalink

    Hey, Great work, Songbird is my fav music player… and with my iPod it’s great!!! I still have one question… can I rip music off of my iPod into my Songbird lib? ’cause with the .4 and .5 versions I couldn’t do so… and it really annoys me… I love everything else… and I CAN give songs to people and put them on their iPods… but I can’t give them my music!!! I have had experience with programming… and I believe it could be that SB is writing metadata that says to read the music off of the ipod… but when the ipod is not connected the metadata links are broken… I think that is your problem, but I don’t know.

  19. Koshi Jun 13, 2008 9:57 pm Permalink

    @Fox I’m glad you like the new version, the team put in a couple extra intense weeks to make this release especially good, I think it really speaks for itself.

    As for the artwork, it’s my pleasure! I’m glad you like it. We’ve got a couple of new t-shirt designs coming soon and we just got a bunch of new stickers, watch for the blog for more on that soon.

    As for adding Google search to the toolbar, you should try the Mycroft Project on mozdev.org. They’ve got an extensive list of Google search plug-ins that can be added to the Songbird search box.

  20. Wagaf-d Jun 13, 2008 10:13 pm Permalink

    Congratulations to the SB team, the 0.6 release is fantastic !
    The new home page design is SOOOO nice !

  21. yen Jun 13, 2008 11:08 pm Permalink

    Hi, congratulations on finally releasing Songbird 6.0 =D

    I just want to know, is there anyway to update from 0.5 to 0.6? I tried checking for updates, but theres nothing. Im running songbird 0.5 on ubuntu hardy.

    Thanks!!

  22. ali Jun 13, 2008 11:20 pm Permalink

    @yen: Upgrades from 0.5 to 0.6 are forthcoming, but you’re right, there isn’t an upgrade provided inside the application right now. Your best bet would be to download a complete 0.6 installer. We’ll get the 0.5 -> 0.6 upgrade out to everyone next week.

  23. Nick Jun 14, 2008 12:01 am Permalink

    Amazing! I’ve just installed 0.6 and it runs like a dream. The speed that it loads and lets me search my music (approx. 6000 songs) puts iTunes to shame. I’m even considering trying allowing Songbird to manage my iPod (though does it support podcasts?).

    Thanks everyone for the good work.

    @Koshi, will the pirate t-shirt be making an appearance? I’m a proud owner of the ninja birds, but while I like ninjas, I LOVE pirates ;)

  24. [mad]MeSSiaH Jun 14, 2008 1:34 am Permalink

    This is far best program (one problem was memory usage now it isnt :D) but I dont get it how it can be free? damn I know lot of good programs that are free but most free programs lacs nice interface or some functions that payed programs have but songbird have it all. \m/

  25. Vladimir Kotal Jun 14, 2008 1:40 am Permalink

    First, great job with the DB backend ! Runs pretty fast on Fedora Core 9 with 1.9GHz AMD CPU with 43GB music collection.

    I have the following feature proposals:

    In the Library view there are 3 Genre/Artist/Album panes and the pane with listing of individual tracks. It could be cool if one could drag and drop e.g. an artist from the Artist pane (meaning all tracks produced by the artist) to iPod Library. Currently this does not seem possible.

    Library auto-sync: as I add (or remove) more tracks to/from the directory which houses my music collection I’d like Songbird to pick up these changes automatically.

  26. Koshi Jun 14, 2008 2:10 am Permalink

    @Nick, The upcoming t-shirts include trains and brains, but no pirates, sorry.
    @Vladmir, Thanks for the praise. Drag artist or album to a playlist or device is a great idea, we’ve got bug 1568 filed for the first part. Please add your comments regarding devices. As for Library auto-sync, we call that feature Watch Folders and I hear it’s coming in the next release. If your curious to see if your feature has been requested or if there’s a bug open for something you’ve experienced, try searching bugzilla.

  27. cellarmation Jun 14, 2008 2:14 am Permalink

    I had an exam yesterday and didn’t have time to check for updates :-( 26th comment? Im gettting slow. Anyway, great to see 0.6 is finally here, its great end to all the exams, next firefox 3 on tuesday!

  28. jkoshi Jun 14, 2008 2:20 am Permalink

    @cellarmation, Congrats on making it to the summer time!

  29. tomvw Jun 14, 2008 2:37 am Permalink

    Great, after trying 0.6 out for a while, I feel I can use it as my default media-player. So long, iTunes! Yay!

  30. Vladimir Kotal Jun 14, 2008 3:55 am Permalink

    @jkoshi The only relevant WatchFolders bug seems to be bug 3318. Actually the big feature for me is metadata editing, I consider the improved search/scrolling speed as a enabler (albeit significant) for using other/more features. The downside of upgrading to 0.6 final is however broken iPod support on Linux (bug 10011).

  31. Jon Pritchard Jun 14, 2008 6:45 am Permalink

    Just started using Sonbird. However once I’ve imported my library I have to play each song individually before Songbird appropriately names it and uses it’s meta information.

    At present I just have a very long list of mp3s with titles. When I play one, it correctly formats the song name and the other details. Is there a way to get around this rather than having to play each of my 7000 songs?

  32. Shamus Omalley Jun 14, 2008 6:55 am Permalink

    Just downloaded 0.6 this morning. Scan of my 20k + items in my collection was issue free.

    Playing with the library, I just love the responsiveness! Shelving WMP and winamp (hopefully for good) which always choked when scanning my collection.

    Well done! Keep up the good work people!

  33. Vivek Jun 14, 2008 8:11 am Permalink

    Great Great Great!!!! Love it guys. Am trashing wmp (windows) and rhythmbox (ubuntu). Songbird is the way to go. Great response and its extremely resource friendly (though more work can be done in this field). Even the cpu utilization is good. What i would love to see is an equilizer. One more suggestion is the auto playlist. Since you guys have addressed majority of the issues in this release, i think now you can concentrate on adding new features like what i mentioned. Once gain congrats on your work. Songbird is the way to go and my audio player from today.!!!!!

  34. Ignacio Jun 14, 2008 9:46 am Permalink

    This release is really better on performance than the last one. At this moment it is taking 56.800KB while I’m listening to online radio and album art manager is fetching missing covers…. nice.
    Congratulations from the south.
    Still, I’m more oriented to audio playing specific stuff, and SB is more about the web… so I guess I’ll always miss some of mediamonkey’s features… Unless until they’re developed :)
    Good luck, and keep em coming!

  35. Daniel Raffel Jun 14, 2008 10:38 am Permalink

    @tomvw
    We’re so excited to have you onboard, it’s only going to get better! Look forward to hearing more feedback, we’ll be working extra-hard to keep you from switching back!!

    @Vladimir Kotal
    We’re looking into the iPod Linux bug and hope to have it addressed shortly! Thanks for providing feedback for us in bugzilla.

    @Jon Pritchard
    Sounds like there was an issue during the metadata scan. If you’re up for trying to re-import your collection I think that could possibly fix things. The easiest way to do that would be to first remove everything from your library (by choosing select all and delete - you don’t have to worry about loosing anything as this doesn’t delete the actual media, just Songbird’s link to it.) Before you re-import, I’d suggest you quit the application and restart your machine. Then, you can re-import by launching the application again and doing a “scan for media” which is located in the File menu. If that doesn’t help we definitely want to look into this further. Feel free to share what happens here or via email at support [a t] songbirdnest.com. Sorry this happened and I hope it’s easily fixed! Thanks for letting us know.

    @Shamus Omalley
    Thanks for the kind words, we’re blushing. We really appreciate your support and you have our word that we’re gonna work hard to keep you onboard! So keep the feedback coming, it really helps make Songbird better.

    @Vivek
    We appreciate the kind words and great feature ideas! We’re not too many more releases out from having gStreamer as our media core. When that happens, OMG - things are gonna get really exciting. The engineers who work at Songbird are gonna have a field day implementing new audio (and then video) features - such as the ones you requested. It means a lot to us to have your support. The feedback you’re sharing is unbelievably helpful to us, so please keep it coming! And, welcome aboard, we’ll do everything we can to keep you coming back!!!

    @Ignacio
    We’re excited to hear Songbird is using less resources on your machine. We’re continuing to work on ways to improve performance, so there will definitely be more progress to report in the next release. That’s awesome that you’re listening to live radio and fetching the album art for the tracks via the web, super cool! Also, rest assured, we’ll be improving our audio specific features. As soon as we land gStreamer as our new media core you can expect to hear a lot more about those plans! Please let us know if there are specific features we’re missing so we can make sure it’s on our ToDo list. Feel free to share your request here, via email at support [a t] songbirdnest.com, or even better - file a feature request with us so you can track progress on bugzilla. Thanks for both the kind words and your feedback!

  36. Chris Jun 14, 2008 2:38 pm Permalink

    I have to hand it to you guys. I’ve been using Songbird since v.0.2.1, and this newest update is just amazing! Keep up the good work!

  37. Daniel Raffel Jun 14, 2008 3:01 pm Permalink

    @Chris
    Thanks for the feedback and for continuing to try out Songbird. I’ll make sure to pass your kind words onto the team, your comments mean a lot to us. We’ll continue to work hard to keep you interested!

  38. josh Jun 14, 2008 4:15 pm Permalink

    can you make software to allow lowering/heightening the volume of tracks as well as editing the start and stop times?

  39. josh Jun 14, 2008 4:20 pm Permalink

    also…
    is there a way to update versions without loosing playlists made on the previous version of songbird?

  40. Sound Thinker Jun 14, 2008 4:45 pm Permalink

    OMG!!!

    Reality Check!!!

    I made a little mistake and let SongBird load up more than I thought! I was shooting for 916 GB and maybe around 40,000 songs to see what would happen. It got 78, 291 songs and 1.44 TB!

    The first time I launched SongBird after a restart, it just stalled, or maybe I should say it gagged. Hard! I was not able to control it, so I Forced Quit and tried again. This time I just let it go and put it in the background.

    Maybe about 20 minutes later I noticed the SongBird Player was available. The very first thing I saw was my iTunes Player being mimicked, but terribly scrambled up in the artist and song sections. My artists increased by well over 1000! I guess this is mainly due to the classical music and compilations.

    Here is the amazing thing. Each and every time I tried playing a song of mine from the SongBird player, it started playing the song faster than iTunes could! The first time this happened my jaw dropped and my eye popped wide open! I’m impressed!!

    But I am short on time right now and have a press release to get out. I’ll have to play more, but this is impressive!

  41. Xer0 Jun 14, 2008 5:26 pm Permalink

    Excellent work! Any chance of you building in support for Google Gears and Mozilla Mesh?

  42. Daniel Raffel Jun 14, 2008 10:15 pm Permalink

    @josh
    As soon as we land gStreamer as our media core (our current best thinking is that it’s about 2-3 releases out, <6 months) lots of exciting audio and video features will be getting developed. We’ll definitely be looking into supporting normalization functionality. Editing start/end times is something we don’t often get requests for so no guarantee’s on that one but I’ll definitely add it to our feature request list, it’s a great idea. Finally, regarding your question about updating without loosing playlists made on the previous version - I want to apologize. We announced back in April that we were making some significant database changes in 0.6 that would be making it incompatible with data contained in previous versions of Songbird. The blog post describes how you can attempt to migrate your data but be warned that we haven’t tried it since, so while one of our engineers provided a solution that worked once it has never been tested by our QA team (and it might no longer work). Rest assured, as we have in the past, we intend to support data migration in future version upgrades of Songbird. Unfortunately, due to the shear number of changes in 0.6 it was no small task this release. We tried to announce it as early as possible. Going forward, we’ll do our best to avoid a similar scenario. And, we’ll explore ways to allow users to export data like playlists so that it can be easily re-imported. Sorry for this upgrade inconvenience in 0.6. And, thanks for your comments and interest in Songbird!

    @Sound Thinker
    Wow, I’m psyched to hear that importing your large music library in Songbird was so successful. We’ve been working hard on library performance improvements and it sounds like it shows! I should have pointed you to Matt’s recent post on our Metadata support. If you’re seeing funky characters it might be due to the fact that we need to still add support for some of the formats that your media is in - the blog post describes what we support. Let me know if you think something different is going on regarding the weirdness you described. I’m curious, what platform are you running Songbird on: Windows/Mac OS X/Linux? Thanks for the early feedback, look forward to hearing more! Thanks for giving things a try and reporting back too.

    @Xer0
    Those are great ideas. While we have no current plans to support Google Gears it’s an example of a Firefox plugin that should be relatively easy to port to Songbird. Perhaps someone from the community would be interested! As for Mozilla Mesh, it’s definitely something we’re thinking about trying to leverage for a variety of reasons - there’s no immediate plans, however.

  43. Marc Jun 15, 2008 2:34 am Permalink

    Is it planned podcasts support? And correct podcast sync with iPod’s?

    Linux lacks a media player with podcasting support at iTunes level (podcast support, management and correct bidirectional sync) in iPods. I tried with Rythmbox, Amarok, Banshee, gtkpod, gPodder and Songbird, and all failed with podcasts.

  44. Xer0 Jun 15, 2008 5:32 am Permalink

    Sorry about that meant Mozilla Weave! Thanks for the quick reply Daniel!

    http://labs.mozilla.com/2008/06/weave-status-update/
    https://services.mozilla.com/

  45. antipode Jun 15, 2008 7:23 am Permalink

    Still no support for albumart. That’s one of the main reasons I stick with another player. But I’ll keep waiting…

  46. raffel Jun 15, 2008 9:32 am Permalink

    @Marc
    Our current best thinking is that we’ll have integrated Podcast support before the end of the year. We can’t wait for this feature either! And yes, it will definitely work well with devices.

    @antipode
    There’s some good news to report, we’ll be supporting album art in the next release. In fact, we’ve already started working on it!

  47. jkoshi Jun 15, 2008 12:30 pm Permalink

    @antipode, there are some excellent add-ons for album art to try until we get album art rolled into the release: http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/102, http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/238.

  48. Jon Pritchard Jun 15, 2008 12:55 pm Permalink

    Thanks for the response I’ll give it another try. I’ve been wanting to try out Sonbird for awhile now. Back in 0.2.5 it simply wouldn’t install on my Windows XP computer.

    The only functionality that I miss at first sight is the taskbar applet that Windows Media Player 11 has, that allows you to control the song from the taskbar. Is there perhaps an extension that duplicates this functionality?

    Thanks again for the response.

  49. Samuel Nunn Jun 15, 2008 1:06 pm Permalink

    I don’t have, nor want an Ipod. Have no use for something sticking in my ears all day.
    Will I ever be able to download music and burn to a cd from Songbird?
    Pay or not. Don’t care.
    My library is only about 8G’s. I have never shared on the net with anyone.(used old Napster years ago)
    Seems like all the people making comments are still in their nickers.Oops! Does that date me?
    Thanks for listening,
    Samuel Nunn.

  50. LouCypher Jun 15, 2008 1:15 pm Permalink

    SB0.6 makes me busy updating my extensions.

  51. Jory Jun 15, 2008 1:44 pm Permalink

    I can’t seem to find some kind of “currently playing” list - A list containing all the items in the play queue.
    I like to be able to see what I’ve got in the queue so that I can edit it.

    The “Jump to” window close button doesn’t really work for me. If I click it, nothing happens. If I then right-click the item in my task bar, it disappears. (Without me clicking close in that.)

    The text in the search box doesn’t update while songbird is actually searching. It can keep up with the first 3-4 letters in terms of updating the text in the searchbox, but after that it just doens’t updated untill the search is complete. (It isn’t noticable unless the search result containt at least a dozen songs.)

    Other then that, I’d just like to say that I like Songbird. It has a simple, clean interface, preformance is good and it managed to import my library much faster then winamp does. (Though I’m not sure how much that means.)

  52. sean Jun 15, 2008 2:50 pm Permalink

    there is a “Now Playing list” extension, and it’s under a very similar name.

    i have it on 0.5, and i’m not sure if it’s compatible with 0.6.

    i dont know why, but the auto-updater has never worked for me, ever since .2.5

  53. jkoshi Jun 15, 2008 2:53 pm Permalink

    @Jory, Thanks for the kinds words.

    As for a “currently playing list” try the Now Playing List Add-on.

    As for the Jump-To close button, that sounds like a bug. Please file a bug if this is a persistent and reproducible problem, same for the search box. How many items do you have in your library? The search box performance is related to the number of tracks in your library, I know libraries 40K and larger have shown to slightly sluggish.

    @Sean, Upgrades from 0.5 to 0.6 are forthcoming, but you’re right, there isn’t an upgrade provided inside the application right now. Your best bet would be to download a complete 0.6 installer. We’ll get the 0.5 -> 0.6 upgrade out to everyone next week.

  54. Brody Jun 15, 2008 5:43 pm Permalink

    I really love Songbird, but it’d sure be great if there were a link next to the download button that said “For other operating systems, click here.”

  55. jkoshi Jun 15, 2008 5:57 pm Permalink

    @Brody, we’ve got a bug filed for that.

  56. yen Jun 15, 2008 7:56 pm Permalink

    Does this version support random album playback?

  57. koppah Jun 15, 2008 8:45 pm Permalink

    Hmmm I tried to import one of my music folders and it seems to stall on a directory I have. Unfortunately, I have no net at home, so I can’t do much useful debugging for now. I’ll try again to narrow down what file is causing problems.

  58. raffel Jun 15, 2008 9:07 pm Permalink

    @yen
    there’s a shuffle mode you can use to play random tracks. you can locate the feature under the ‘controls’ menu.

    @brody
    no problem, we’ll be happy to add that feature to the homepage again soon. and i’ve fixed the bug jkoshi referenced.

  59. raffel Jun 15, 2008 9:09 pm Permalink

    @koppah
    we look forward to hearing more, please consider filing a bug with us so we can track this down, thanks!

  60. yen Jun 16, 2008 2:09 am Permalink

    @raffel: Thanks, I knew that already, what i’m looking for is to shuffle albums, instead of just tracks

  61. Chris Przybycien Jun 16, 2008 7:21 am Permalink

    Congrats on releasing 0.6 final! Easily the best music app on all supported platforms. I would vote Songbird for Minister of Sound

  62. raffel Jun 16, 2008 8:42 am Permalink

    @yen
    That’s a great idea, we don’t currently support that functionality but I’ll certainly add it to our feature requests list.

    @Chris Przybycien
    hehehe, thanks for the support and kind words!

  63. zshilts Jun 16, 2008 8:58 am Permalink

    Songbird is definitely the most impressive music focused mediaplayer i have ever used. i started out with winamp as my favorite, then jetaudio, tried amarok (pretty awesome), but songbirds builtin browser and cross platform takes the prize, and being pretty usable and stable at only .5/.6, not even 1.0 yet.

  64. markus Jun 16, 2008 9:10 am Permalink

    Congratulations on v0.6. I love it. I’m working with a Linux/Windows dual boot pc and I was always looking for a solution to have the same media player on both os.
    The main reason, why songbird isn’t yet my default audio player, is, that I have a few hundred playlists to import and I don’t know how I could import them from the folder all at once. (Importing them one by one would be a little annoying.)
    Is there any Addon or something? (I haven’t found any solution.)
    The other reason - just a little detail - is, that I’m used to sort the songs in my library by “filename”. I haven’t found this tag in songbird.

    But nonetheless, I’ve tried songbird the last time as it was v0.3.
    The progress is amazing! So I’m sure it won’t be long and SB will be my new favourite on both plattforms.

    Thank you for the great work!
    Markus

  65. ali Jun 16, 2008 1:14 pm Permalink

    @markus: the iTunes Library Importer add-on will import your playlists. Give it a whirl! Songbird will detect and ignore duplicates of songs you’ve already imported in the process. We do not, as of yet, have a filename field, but there is a Location field that you can use for sorting.

  66. markus Jun 16, 2008 1:26 pm Permalink

    Thanks for the fast answer. :-)
    I’m gonna try it!

  67. LouCypher Jun 16, 2008 1:49 pm Permalink

    Now it supports gContextMenu. That’s great :-)

  68. wildan Jun 16, 2008 3:23 pm Permalink

    Great Works folks:)

  69. eric Jun 16, 2008 4:15 pm Permalink

    the release performs well for me.. a first on windows! i have been using the software since .3 and have tried every new release hoping to fall in love. big question: is there any way for me to change the soundcard? i use my motherboard’s one with $2 goodwill speakers for windows audio and lofi internet streams and i use a firewire interface hooked up to nice studio monitors for music and movie playback (mediamonkey, vlc, etc). am i missing something in the preferences or an extension? it seems like the preferences window is filled with lots of lush options about encryption and other junk that make me feel like i’m customizing firefox instead of a media player.

  70. koppah Jun 16, 2008 6:44 pm Permalink

    @raffel:

    I don’t the internet at my new house yet, because I’ve just moved! That said, I had a look at the folder and it got stuck while trying to import FLACs. I don’t have enough info to be able to file a bug yet, but I’ll try it as soon as I get the net connected.

  71. raffel Jun 16, 2008 8:37 pm Permalink

    @zshilts
    Thanks, it was definitely a team effort - I’ll make sure to pass along your sentiments to the team!

    @eric
    When we make the switch to gStreamer we expect to build more audio preferences into the app. Unfortunately, in the meantime there’s currently no way to get at more audio prefs than what you see as options. For the time being, if you want to switch audio cards you’ll need to manage it at the OS level. Your request is a great one and currently on our feature request list, I’ll definitely be adding another vote for it!

    @wildan
    Thanks for the kind words!

    @koppah
    Thanks for the headsup, we look forward to exploring this further. In the meantime, sorry for the hiccups, you have our word that we’ll see what we can do to sort this out as soon as we have more info.

  72. Matthew Jun 16, 2008 11:17 pm Permalink

    Awesome work! This App is tops!

  73. MonkeyFit Jun 17, 2008 2:00 am Permalink

    I’ve been following Songbird since before 0.1 was released. I was very active in the forums, I even tried to read EVERY new post in all the forums. As time went one, many pieces got rewritten, and to a non-developer such as myself, it seemed almost like nothing new was really happening. I lost touch with the project. I even went for a couple moths without even visiting the site. I never really gave 0.4 or 0.5 releases a real try. Then somebody contacted me and asked me a few questions about it. I decided to take a look at the site and see what progress had been made since my last visit. 0.6 rc’s were coming out, but i decided to wait for final as i remembered how fickle the old nightlies were. I am very impressed. With additional addon’s such as glossy feathers to give a more native look in Vista, and the Now Playing List add-on, Songbird is now almost ready to replace WMP as my main player. What will really make me switch is CD-ripping and transcoding capabilities, which will come after gStreamer is implemented (apparently in about 2-3 releases for gStreamer so I figure a couple releases after). I’m beginning to get back into the project. Great work POTI, and of course all the developers who contributed to both the app and the add-ons library. Thanks.

  74. kafka Jun 17, 2008 2:23 am Permalink

    Wow. So much better release. Well done guys, your app is much stabler smoother.
    you Kick ass.

  75. endblink Jun 17, 2008 8:26 am Permalink

    New Songbird and new Firefox on the same day.

    Is it Christmas already?

  76. changturkey Jun 17, 2008 11:58 am Permalink

    MusicBrainz Tagging Support and tracking of deleted/retagged music files for 0.7 please!

  77. Andy Jun 17, 2008 12:01 pm Permalink

    I just tried to import a CD, apparently songbird lacks that feature. I also get problems playing ogg files and the songbird has a dependency on a gstreamer plugin I have apparently not installed. I am also missing support of torrents.

  78. serrebi Jun 17, 2008 1:50 pm Permalink

    Songbird is getting better. I’m blind and it’s totally usable with a screenreader. A few changes might need to be changed such as the library views not being considered a webpage… If that makes sence. I’m using a screen reader called jaws for windows,
    http://www.hj.com

  79. Chris Lavender Jun 17, 2008 3:25 pm Permalink

    would like to add. one feature of itunes i enjoy is its ability to keep my music tidy. will this be done in songbird when adding a new folder or ripping a cd?

  80. raffel Jun 17, 2008 6:47 pm Permalink

    @Matthew
    Thanks!!

    @MonkeyFit
    It always means a lot to us when we hear feedback from users. Also, thanks for noticing the progress we’re making, I’ll certainly share this with the team. Thanks for continuing to follow the project and provide some additional feature request ideas!

    @kafka
    Appreciate the kind words. :)

    @endblink
    If it was x-mas that would certainly explain the cold I have at the start of summer… We’re so excited about FF3 launching today (and incredibly proud of the Mozilla team!)

    @changturkey
    Oh man, do we want the MusicBrainz feature! It’s not currently on our ToDo list for the next release but I hear ‘ya. Once gStreamer lands we’ll be getting access to a fingerprinting mechanism. (That makes hooking it possible.)

    @Andy
    Can you email us at support [a t] songbirdnest.com? We’d love to help you sort out your installation. Also, since we don’t support BitTorrent I’ll add your comment as a vote for it on our feature request list. Look forward to working with you to get you all setup on Songbird.

    @serrebi
    First, sorry to hear that Songbird isn’t useable with jaws. Thanks for letting us know. We definitely want to explore support for screenreaders. I filed a bug in our bugzilla so feel free to subscribe to it in order to track its progress.

    @Chris Lavender
    We definitely intend on supporting organizing a users media library, it’s currently on our ToDo list but the implementation date hasn’t been scoped.

  81. radamo Jun 17, 2008 7:18 pm Permalink

    I am using the 0.5 version on Ubuntu Hardy and the update feature still tells me I am running the latest version. Is there a way to update without a reinstall?
    Thanks,
    radamo

  82. changturkey Jun 18, 2008 12:20 pm Permalink

    Thanks for the response raffel, are there any plans for automatic removal of deleted music files from the music library? I hate having to select all my music files to remove them from the library, then re-add them again, just so Songbird can figure out whats there and isn’t.

  83. jetmac Jun 18, 2008 1:41 pm Permalink

    I’m running Songbird .6 on Ubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron) and everything is working great I really love this program) — until I tried to sync my ipod nano (1st gen). It recognized it fine, could play the music, etc, etc. When I sync’d it erased what was already on it (what I had loaded previously from iTunes, it’s OK), just as it was supposed to — but it never put anything back on. The music from Songbird didn’t transfer to the ipod. Did I miss something?

  84. Erik Staats Jun 18, 2008 2:44 pm Permalink

    @jetmac
    Did you sync to the whole library or to a selected playlist?

  85. Dj Frost Jun 18, 2008 4:40 pm Permalink

    Awesome work guys, you are going to be software superstars in no time.. this product is an amazing tool as a DJ.. Keep up the amazing work!!!

    Peace from Vancity BC~
    Frost

  86. jetmac Jun 18, 2008 5:05 pm Permalink

    Erik,

    I sync’d to the whole library (I think, I presumed that was the default).

  87. Daniel Raffel Jun 18, 2008 6:47 pm Permalink

    @radamo
    Due to some hiccups that occurred we have yet to post an automatic 0.6 update for Linux 32-bit (we’re working on it). In the meantime you can manually update by simply downloading the update from the homepage.

    @changturkey
    This is currently on our ToDo list but we haven’t planned when work will begin on implementing it. I’ve noted your request as another vote for this feature, I want it too! Thanks for the feedback.

    @Dj Frost
    Thanks for the kind words! I’ll make sure to pass this along to the team.

  88. jetmac Jun 18, 2008 7:14 pm Permalink

    Hey, while I’m thinking about it — can Songbird .6 be loaded onto an eee?

  89. jetmac Jun 18, 2008 7:18 pm Permalink

    Erik,

  90. jetmac Jun 18, 2008 7:19 pm Permalink

    Erik,

    Played with it some more and got it all figured out — everything is working and sync’ing as it should. This program is amazing!

  91. easyLEE Jun 19, 2008 12:48 am Permalink

    great update!

    i’m using songbird since 0.3 and it’s a prefect itunes alternative for me!

    please REMOVE THE BROWSER

    it’s useless, and in fact, when i need some music (and many others), we use rapidshare instead of those shitty musicblogs

  92. Vladimir Kotal Jun 19, 2008 5:13 am Permalink

    @easyLEE: The browser mashup is here to stay (and thrive) and I am pretty sure the overwhelming majority of Songbird users love it. :) There might be some Feathers variant which could help you, though.

  93. Grant Jun 19, 2008 6:43 pm Permalink

    Nice job, but what happened to my large collection of bookmarks when I upgraded to 6???? It took me ages to accumulate those pages, all with great free music, mixes, etc…GONE!!!!!

    Someone help!!

  94. Charlie Jun 21, 2008 7:31 pm Permalink