Songbird 0.1 Proof-of-Concept Update

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Songbird 0.1 Proof-of-Concept is hereby hatched.

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  1. Anonymous Feb 8, 2006 2:55 am Permalink

    Amazing! This is enough to convince me to boot in Windows.

    Now I have to wait for the Linux version… but this is great!!

    Keep it up guys! Awesome work!

  2. Anonymous Feb 8, 2006 3:34 am Permalink

    Congratulations on getting it out of the door!

  3. Anonymous Feb 8, 2006 4:31 am Permalink

    Firstly, welcome to my desktop :)

    I’ve been keen to see what this puppy can do;

    Is there anywhere we can post bugs, features of suggestions? I can’t start topics in the forums.

    It appears you have to sign up to see the release notes.

    I’m looking forward to seeing where this goes :)

  4. Anonymous Feb 8, 2006 4:35 am Permalink

    I understand that you guys need a business model, but it seems like the sidebar contains advertising links to anyone who was willing to pay… How does this help me as a user?

    A few notes:
    1. If Songbird is using VLC which is GPL - doesn’t it mean that the whole thing is GPL and can be freely used and distributed?

    2. This thing connects to the Net - will it report my “usage stats” to the “partners”? Where is the privacy policy?

    3. If this is Firefox, where is the tabbed browsing!? Where are the other Firefox goodies? How is this different from the Windows Media Player Web panel?

  5. Anonymous Feb 8, 2006 6:12 pm Permalink

    the songbird has been released. i am currently installing it. can’t wait to try it out

  6. ronen Feb 8, 2006 9:30 pm Permalink

    We actually had bugzilla up and in use by our team before the slashdot hammer landed, forcing me to migrate quickly to a nice little cluster. I had to leave bugzilla behind.

    It’ll probably be back up tomorrow morning pending a short conversation with Aus. Right now I think that him and Koshi are compounding lack of sleep with beer so it’ll just have to wait a bit.

    Thanks for trying out Songbird and we’ll appreciate the bug reports - they’re highly useful to us.

  7. Anonymous Feb 8, 2006 11:39 pm Permalink

    I have to say, I wasn’t expecting much from your first release. I’d read so much hype on so many sites, with threads and threads of debates about how this release would go. I’d been burned before by overhype and unmet expectations. But I’m so happy to see this wasn’t the case here.

    It’s great to see all the polish you guys put into everything that *does* work at this stage. Top notch UI, great theme, simple and effective library, directory structure monitoring, etc. And the amount of work and thought you put into all the little details of this concept release is quite appearent, and appreciated. It’s nice to see folks developing and designing with users in mind.

    Can’t wait to see where things go from here, cause I’m hooked.

  8. Anonymous Feb 8, 2006 11:55 pm Permalink

    Hello Songbird Team!

    I was quite surprised when I booted my computer at work this morning to find out that Songbird 0.1poc was released. I downloaded it and installed it… and I’m impressed!
    You’ve done a great job, and never made any false promises. In fact, I expected it to be far worse… and I was ready to forgive you if it would’ve made my computer wet the floor or explode in my face.

    Songbird still has a long way to go. One of the first features you should think about is a functional Pause button. ;-)
    I’m going to be using this player today, in honour of your great work. I can live with the bugs, being a programmer myself. You’ve done a great job and you should all have a beer on me. (if I could pay it, I would, but I’m broke at the moment)

    Anyway, keep up the good work, and I’m looking forward to the next version!

    Cheers!

    Bamsebjørn

  9. Anonymous Feb 9, 2006 1:02 am Permalink

    What about the people who had money riding on its being vaporware?!

  10. Anonymous Feb 9, 2006 7:55 am Permalink

    For those who perfer torrents:

    http://www.torrentbox.com/torrents-details.php?id=30953

    Guys, please make torrents for the next /., k?

    Robin Monks
    Drupal.org Marketing

  11. Anonymous Feb 9, 2006 8:54 am Permalink

    Congratulations on a successful preliminary launch, I hope the reaction has been everything you hoped for - Lord* knows you’ve created a stir with this, just a preview version! [*No pun intended!]

    It must be gratifying to finally see some support for your work rather than the senseless and uneducated attacks that have plagued the development blog comments area to date. Even as an outsider that’s good to see.

    Again, congratulations on a wonderful proof of concept!

  12. Anonymous Feb 9, 2006 9:37 am Permalink

    Good bye, iTunes and hello, Songbird!

    Can’t wait for device support! Any eta on that?

  13. Anonymous Feb 9, 2006 11:18 am Permalink

    Grats Y’all, Songbird is running beautifully, sort of…
    Well definately good enough for a mere proof-of-concept.
    Now if I could just get it to play my m4a’s

    (sig)
    Shots³: A Populist Parable

  14. nivi Feb 9, 2006 12:53 pm Permalink

    Hi,

    0. The sidebar will be configurable in a future release.

    1. Our source code is available under the GPL, see our Development page.

    2. We don’t have a privacy policy yet, we will get on that. Protecting user privacy is important to us.

    3. Tabbed browsing is a great idea!

  15. Anonymous Feb 9, 2006 3:37 pm Permalink

    I know it’s selfish but I’d love to see a last.fm plugin :)

    I can see a lot of power from songbird taking suggestions from last fm and helping me track them down on other sites :)

  16. ronen Feb 9, 2006 3:56 pm Permalink

    We’re not reporting anything about your usage right now. The only thing we are doing is pinging our server the first time you launch Songbird and this is simply to provide us with a useful metric about how many people have actually installed the app.

    But don’t trust me - the application is open source and you can look inside to see what’s happening. In general one benefit of open source is that people will be able to report on the exact way the application behaves.

  17. Anonymous Feb 10, 2006 1:48 am Permalink

    Hi!

    Somehow the pause button suddenly started working, aswell as searching in the song (which didn’t work the first time I used the program, but afterward it did) so I’m one happy user now.

    There are plenty of bugs, but it’s working pretty well. I’ve been using it yesterday and today… and it’s still running good.

    Great job!

  18. Anonymous Feb 10, 2006 6:57 am Permalink

    I downloaded songbird 0.1PR and it cannot retrieve the metadata of my mp3. According to the screenshot I saw on the website, songbird can retrieve metadata. I use ID3 Tag v1 & v2 for my mp3, does songbird understands only ape or ogg tags ? Or maybe it’s just a bug, in that case, nevermind :)

  19. Anonymous Feb 10, 2006 9:15 am Permalink

    The metadata from my MP3 files was retrieved fine, but it could only get the song title for my WMA files - the artist and album ar blank.
    On a related note, is it possible to edit the tag details? I right clicked on an item in the Library, selected Edit from the menu, and changed the text in the column. When I pressed enter the change disappeared. The same happens when I click on another column.

  20. Aus Feb 10, 2006 9:19 am Permalink

    Songbird just doesn’t like certain ID3 tag versions currently… Although, I’m surprised none of your mp3’s got their tag’s read.

  21. Anonymous Feb 10, 2006 9:55 am Permalink

    Songbird is exactly what I’ve been waiting for.

    Like any other beta, I’ve found a few bugs. Can I have a bugzilla account? I’d love help by posting bugs.

  22. Anonymous Feb 10, 2006 10:00 am Permalink

    Nice, very nice.

    Downloaded because of a post in some forum online.

    You guys are doing a hell of a job, so congrats!

    The Bird’s really cute, too!

  23. Anonymous Feb 10, 2006 2:46 pm Permalink

    Hi guys, great work!

    I made a special feature for the Songbird player at radio.blog.club. Visit Radioblogclub.com in Songbird and try to search anything, for example Britney Spears. I create a “songbird” button to play the track in Songbird. (it only works in Songbird).

    As you can see, Songbird detects the songs called Linking_Park……mp3. But mostly of the radio.blog songs are named something.rbs so Songbird doesn’t detect them.

    - Do you know how I can say to Songbird that “.rbs” is a sound file?

    Don’t hesitate to contact me if you want to discuss further about this.

    Cheers!

  24. Anonymous Feb 10, 2006 3:16 pm Permalink

    I had the same problem as StevenR when importing my wma files. The only data that propagated was song title.

    I’m excited to see this bird fly.

  25. mig Feb 10, 2006 5:05 pm Permalink

    We use this odd little magic database trick to make sure the library always shows the current information.

    Unfortunately, sometimes it’s slow. Did it just never update at all? That’s odd.

  26. Anonymous Feb 10, 2006 5:43 pm Permalink

    Hows the linux version comming? I think I can compile everything but the actual songbird sourcecode, as there is no makefiles. You have any makefiles i can try?

  27. Anonymous Feb 10, 2006 5:47 pm Permalink

    Hows the linux version comming? I think I can compile everything but the actual songbird sourcecode, as there is no makefiles. You have any makefiles i can try?

  28. Anonymous Feb 11, 2006 3:52 am Permalink

    They seem to be updating now, I don’t know why it wasn’t working before - although it only updates the details if I press Enter, moving to another row or column appears to lose the update.

  29. Anonymous Feb 11, 2006 4:40 am Permalink

    It updates the length to “0:00″ instead of “0″ after the scanning, that’s all, the title is set to the filename.

  30. Anonymous Feb 11, 2006 2:06 pm Permalink

    I tried manually updating the tags and it worked. But is there anyway to edit a particular field for multiple tracks at once? I tried highlighting all the tracks by a specific artist and put the data in, but it only updated for one of the tracks. If there’s no way to do this until a future realease, then thanks for everything so far. If there is a way to do this though, could you provide a quick answer in the blog? Thank you for all your hard work and this soon-to-be god-like media player.

  31. Anonymous Feb 11, 2006 2:44 pm Permalink

    After scanning the songs, it updates length from “0″ to “0:00″, that’s all :/

  32. mig Feb 12, 2006 2:12 am Permalink

    Well, no, we got plenty of senseless and uneducated attacks even after we shipped.

    That’s fine. This ol’ internet wouldn’t nearly be the same without the incessant gaggles of fan boi dom.

    Glad you enjoyed it. :)

  33. mig Feb 12, 2006 2:13 am Permalink

    We’ll post to the blog when it’s open and not going to take down the rest of the world.

  34. mig Feb 12, 2006 2:17 am Permalink

    Right now?

    1) Grep for “function IsMediaUrl(” and find the 7 files I had to stick that same function into.

    2) Add your extension to that list.

    3) Open the file in Songbird and hope the VLC plugin has any sort of clue regarding what horrible thing you’re trying to make it do.

    If VLC can’t take it, however, then you shouldn’t play naughty with file extensions. :)

    Thanks for doing the custom site coding, tho. That’s slick.

  35. Anonymous Feb 12, 2006 2:19 am Permalink

    We have vcproj files. That’s MSVC7.1 stuff.

    We should have a public build system including makefiles and installer binaries for Mac and Linux in but a few short weeks.

    Go check the Roadmap I linked from the “Development” page.

  36. Anonymous Feb 12, 2006 2:58 am Permalink

    Songbird just doesn’t like certain ID3 tag versions currently… Although, I’m surprised none of your mp3’s got their tag’s read.

    i have 5000 mp3, 0 tagg recognize !!!!
    it’s very boring, i am actualy using itunes, and i can’t say that your software is great because i can’t understand how i can use a song software without tagg!!!

    Amau

    PS : hope this is your priority fix

  37. Anonymous Feb 12, 2006 5:20 am Permalink

    Hello, thank for your job, i was realy happy to test your software, but i have 5000 mp3, and 0 tag recognize, is it a bug?
    can you help me please :) because i can not use your soft if I have 0 tag on my mp3.

    amau

  38. Anonymous Feb 12, 2006 10:23 am Permalink

    congrats first of all!
    Good job. Songbird is on board and all other meadiaplayers are uninstalled. :)
    Didn’t find translation into other languages. As far as I understood it will be in next realeses.
    */me wants to see my translations into Russian and Ukrainian and correct them*

    ps
    don’t forget about audioscrobbler. :)

  39. mig Feb 12, 2006 2:00 pm Permalink

    Tag reading, as we continue to assert, is as 0.1 as the rest of the product.

    We rely on VLC to load the metadata information, and we can only get what information VLC gives us.

    Local mp3 files with standard v1 or v2 tagging should work fine, however.

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